T206 Blue Old Mill Back

[mrdbrooks77]

Cant wait to see the pics

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[hpkatz26]

I don’t think I’m allowed to post pictures because it has been consigned but a few experts saw it at the Chantilly show this weekend and thought it was authentic. It may be on display at the upcoming National. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about it. I remember buying it from a very reputable card dealer years ago and have had it in my collection for the past 25 years.

[Rhotchkiss]

Howard, I spoke with Tom about the card at Chantilly. He showed me pics and said he was going to put us in touch. I am interested. But if you consigned it, then we have little to talk about. If you have not consigned it, please email me at rhotchkiss@horizonlandco.com. I understand that SGC declined to opine on the card, which is a tad concerning. Better if slabbed SGC/PSA

[sb1]

I will be bringing the Campbell to Chicago for collectors(and TPG's) to examine on behalf of it's owner. As well as several other T206 oddities and rarities(from various parties).

[Sean]

I'll look for you Scott.

[Ronnie73]

Sounds like a very interesting find. I was made aware of the find a couple days ago. Hopefully it's the real deal. I'm sure more exist out there waiting to be found. Unfortunately the Walsh never had really good scans and just the auction house scan which is really hard to see any color difference. That was the main reason for doing so many scans with a flatbed scanner and a usb microscope on the Blue Old Mill Powell. Then making a YouTube video to bring awareness to the variation that could be searched for. I hope the Elberfeld gets some scans that can be shared to everyone that actually show a comparison color difference. When the Walsh came out, everyone said you had to see it in person to tell the difference. That was disappointing.

So the SGC thing, they didn't want to give an opinion or refused to grade it as a Blue Old Mill? I haven't graded mine yet but figured that it would have to be graded by SGC since they were the one's that graded the Walsh. I haven't reached out to SGC or PSA on grading my card yet but will at some point. It just has not been a top priority since I have done so many comparison scans along with a video and also know the card its self is genuine. I would like to know how SGC determined that the Walsh was blue. Did they compare it to other cards or try to determine where the blue ink came from? I always thought the holder should have said "Printed with whatever blue ink" because I can say mine is 100 percent Piedmont blue.

My T206 Blue Old Mill Powell YouTube Video https://youtu.be/p5qUHZQLeFw

[hpkatz26]

Ron - The video was great and thanks for doing it. Actually mine looks identical as far as the blue Old Mill back was concerned. It certainly seems to me that mine is real too but if a grading/authentication service has the courage to grade it properly again then everyone will know one way or the other. Thanks so much for your comments. Best regards, Howard

[Jobu]

They don't own your pics - or your card. Post away. They should want the extra attention anyway.

Originally Posted by hpkatz26

I don’t think I’m allowed to post pictures because it has been consigned.

[hpkatz26]

I'll have to check on this and get back to you. Would love to do so because I think this card is fabulous and better than the other two examples that are known to exist. I wish there were others so the grading services would more readily and fully validate this card for all collectors. Best regards and thanks for your interest. Howard

[t206kid]

I looked in person. Card is for sure blue. We also compared to it my Washington Elberfeld OM and it's noticeably a different color.

[hpkatz26]

Thanks Jay for adding to this discussion. I understand that there are a lot of skeptics out there. I wonder what the discoverer of the first Honus Wagner card or the Doyle variation had to go through. I just hope a grading service will be willing to do the right thing here - either the card is real or it is not. I'm betting it is the former. Thanks again for the comment. Best regards, Howard

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by t206kid

I looked in person. Card is for sure blue. We also compared to it my Washington Elberfeld OM and it's noticeably a different color.

Might be, talked with him for 30 minutes, waiting on pics from him.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..lost on all these city slickers.

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I got the fish on bobber down analogy.

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Might be, talked with him for 30 minutes, waiting on pics from him.

Decided you might like a rare back? I would love one of them with a Red Cobb front but it would be way past my card budget.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by hpkatz26

I don’t think I’m allowed to post pictures because it has been consigned but a few experts saw it at the Chantilly show this weekend and thought it was authentic. It may be on display at the upcoming National. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about it. I remember buying it from a very reputable card dealer years ago and have had it in my collection for the past 25 years.

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[CMIZ5290]

I have spoke with the owner, let's see how it plays out. My opinion has changed a bit after speaking with him for a long time....

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

A number of us have seen it. This is NOT a shaggy dog story. Pictures will likely be coming shortly.

[CMIZ5290]

Scott- You're right...I have been on the phone with him for over 30 minutes. He is sending me the pics, this is now very intriguing, especially being an Elberfeld portrait.....

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Ahhh ......Here we go again. Large shiner in the lake, boom! 12 lb Bass hits....He is also using treble hooks!!

..lost on all these city slickers.

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