David Hall auctioning his t206 master collection

ValKehl · #1 07-10-2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

It�s a real good question. I generally agree with Michael that everything will get absorbed, often at record prices. However, I do fear that the pure volume/supply of commons with rare backs, could hurt the value of commons with rare backs. There are very few Cobb Lenox or Baker red hindu, but to most of us, a common player is a common player, and we really don�t care who is on the front; rather it�s the back we are after. So maybe the value/cost of common Drums, Uzits, Lenox, BL, CB go down for a spell do to availability (much supply).

Ryan, what you say re the prices of Hall's quantity of T206 commons with rare backs makes sense, on the one hand. On the other hand, if a couple of T206 collectors who currently have say 2-3 Lenox cards in their collections decide this may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to obtain a slew of Lenox cards, then I can see the Lenox commons selling for surprisingly high prices. Ditto for Drums, Uzits, BLs, CBs, etc.

atx840 · #2 07-10-2019, 03:07 PM

I dont see it affecting the market too much....there are several cards that likely wont come close to what he spent on

Red Hindy DANNY MURPHY (BATTING) G PSA 2
31k
http://catalog.scpauctions.com/lot-20959.aspx

Sean · #3 07-10-2019, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by atx840

I dont see it affecting the market too much....there are several cards that likely wont come close to what he spent on

Red Hindy DANNY MURPHY (BATTING) G PSA 2
31k
http://catalog.scpauctions.com/lot-20959.aspx

This is the one that I thought of as well. It took two bidders to reach that level. With Hall out, it will go for less than 1/10th that much.

swarmee · #4 07-10-2019, 05:16 PM

It will at least provide an interesting case study. There are a lot of player back run collectors that may have a rare chance to complete their "sets" that should keep some bidding up for commons.

CMIZ5290 · #5 07-10-2019, 05:54 PM

They will all bring a ton of money. I sold David many cards and believe me, he knows his shit! Just saying....Keep in mind, it takes 2 bidders to tango.....People talk about the prices he paid, well Hell, who was the other bidder?

bnorth · #6 07-10-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

They will all bring a ton of money. I sold David many cards and believe me, he knows his shit! Just saying....Keep in mind, it takes 2 bidders to tango.....People talk about the prices he paid, well Hell, who was the other bidder?

In that scenario since the main bidder is gone the 3rd bidder is who will have to push the price now. Unless there is new rare back collectors.

I am not a T206 collector, are the rare backs still hot?

CMIZ5290 · #7 07-10-2019, 06:11 PM

Ben, I'm not saying that the rare backs will get to where they were several years ago. David Hall pushed that bar big time, BIG time. I do think there is still a big market for rare backs, not one of my favorite collecting choices, but it is what it is. I would rather buy an 8 with a common back versus a 3 with a rare back any day, just me though...

Leon · #8 07-12-2019, 05:48 PM

I am sure he got a lot, or most, of his cards at auction BUT I am also sure collectors knew what he collected and chased him down for private sales. (and vice versa)

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

They will all bring a ton of money. I sold David many cards and believe me, he knows his shit! Just saying....Keep in mind, it takes 2 bidders to tango.....People talk about the prices he paid, well Hell, who was the other bidder?

Rich Falvo · #9 07-12-2019, 05:56 PM

I�m curious just to see what he had. There are cards I�d love to have for my collection -commons but with scare or rare backs - that I�ve never seen for auction/sale.

petecld · #10 07-10-2019, 03:20 PM

This deal has been months, if not years in the making. Some information on the David Hall Collection of T206s. There will be three auctions in 2019 with his cards. Auction 50015 which is July 18-20 will be the first. Session Two (Lots 81736 � 81923) will end on July 19 are dedicated to Mr. Hall's cards. In September and December there will be dedicated auctions for his collection. All three will have a dedicated catalog. All three covers will form one panoramic-style scene as will the back covers.

The focus of first offering is rarity. Many rare brands including Carolina Brights, Broad Leaf, Drum, Hindu-Brown, Hindu-Red and Uzit. The Ty Cobb portraits include an Old Mill (Red Portrait), Lenox-Black (Red Portrait), Hindu-Red (Red Portrait) and Old Mill (Green Portrait). A few other highlights - Walter Johnson-Broad Leaf, Mathewson/Portrait-Hindu Brown, Mathewson/White Cap-Hindu Brown and Mathewson/Dark Cap-Tolstoi. I think you get the idea.

The focus of the September auction will be quality. There will be a complete set, including Honus Wagner and what has to be the most incredible Ty Cobb Tobacco tin!

The focus of the December auction will be "Sovereign Cigarettes." I believe he has one of the most complete sets of "Sovereign" backs known.

And yes, there will be more coming in 2020 and I will post updates as plans and schedules become finalized.

Good Luck and Thank You to Everyone Who Participates,

Peter

OldOriole · #11 02-13-2020, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by petecld

There will be three auctions in 2019 with his cards. Auction 50015 which is July 18-20 will be the first. Session Two (Lots 81736 � 81923) will end on July 19 are dedicated to Mr. Hall's cards. In September and December there will be dedicated auctions for his collection. All three will have a dedicated catalog. All three covers will form one panoramic-style scene as will the back covers.

And yes, there will be more coming in 2020 and I will post updates as plans and schedules become finalized.

Good Luck and Thank You to Everyone Who Participates,

Peter

Now that the first three auctions are done, do we know what the plans are for 2020? I see Auction #4 is scheduled for 4/16 but anymore details on how many auctions or the 'themes' of each auction? Thanks!

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