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Old 07-07-2019, 05:48 PM
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One person cannot bid up an auction. Mathematical impossibility.
Depends on the auction...I've done it a few times in both REA and LOTG
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:05 PM
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If you abhor graded cards Greg Morris is, in my experience, the most reliable seller of raw cards for post-war set builders. He (they?) has a very loyal following that is earned. I assume that there are also bidders who look to grade the nicest raw cards from Greg Morris. I think that this card was given the highest grade that Greg Morris will give and their loyal customers will trust that.

I don't know what accounts for this one but it just takes two -- set builders or investors -- who want this card and want it now.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:06 PM
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You can question Greg Morris auctions without necessarily impugning his integrity. I did this a few months ago on the postwar side, and still remain baffled by some of the action I see:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ighlight=frank

From my post #28:
"Well, sorry to rant again, but I may put my return to buying nice raw post-war cards on hold. GM had a nice 1967 Kaline a week or two ago, which mostly sells for under $100 in PSA 8 and has one sale at 8.5 for $155. My snipe didn't even register and the ungraded card sold for $193.50.

The kicker, though, was a high-number 1966 Dick Bertell. Nice but far from scarce and not so distinguishable from those in recent sales. The ungraded GM card sold for $115. This is about double what it sells for in PSA 9 MINT. Surely no one is buying in hopes of a 10?

I can see the odd card earning more when really well centered, especially if it is notoriously found off center, and likewise for cards usually subject to print dots or snow. But c'mon man. This is just nuts and I'm not cherry picking sales to make my point, unless everyone just happens to want the same cards that I bid."
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:24 PM
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See Leon, I'm not the only one. Not all of us were born yesterday.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:42 PM
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What Time? I need to know if I won the pool.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:45 PM
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I think people bid strong because they actually have a shot to get the grades advertised.

In 2011 I purchased three cards from a raw set break of the 1982 Wrestling All Stars Series B.

Kerry Von Erich advertised as Mint graded Mint a Pop 2 eight years later.

Jesse Ventura advertised as Mint graded Mint.

Greg Valentine advertised as Mint graded Mint.

My last purchase was another Kerry Von Erich advertised as NM-MT and graded NM. Borderline grade and I feel could have gone either way.

He has great scans, fair grading and fast shipping. Hard to beat.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:16 PM
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I think the bottom line is, you only bid up to the amount that you think a card is worth, then there are no problems. If you bid more, and someone keeps bumping up your bid, who's fault is that? Smart bidding equals winning everything at a fair price but also losing on over priced cards. I've won some Greg Morris cards and lost some too, but the ones that I won, I got at great prices.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:33 PM
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The biggest issue is why in the heck are people bidding during the first 6.9 days of the auction? The only thing that matters is the bid at the end. Not who leads with four days remaining. Set a snipe bid. Put it on your watch list to look at with 10 minutes to go. Why are there 39 bids on that card?
Don't people know anything about bidding? Or are they all paying with Monopoly money?
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:20 AM
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I think people bid strong because they actually have a shot to get the grades advertised.

In 2011 I purchased three cards from a raw set break of the 1982 Wrestling All Stars Series B.

Kerry Von Erich advertised as Mint graded Mint a Pop 2 eight years later.

Jesse Ventura advertised as Mint graded Mint.

Greg Valentine advertised as Mint graded Mint.

My last purchase was another Kerry Von Erich advertised as NM-MT and graded NM. Borderline grade and I feel could have gone either way.

He has great scans, fair grading and fast shipping. Hard to beat.
My thoughts exactly.... his grading of raw cards is pretty accurate. I bought some for my raw sets...but I'm sure if I sent them in to get it graded, it would come back as the grade advertised. Ricky Y
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:07 AM
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I'll put in my 2 cents.
I've bid on a lot of Greg Morris auctions. He does sometimes get some super great prices. But it is an auction. Decide what you want to pay and stick with it. You'll win some and lose some.
Some people have more money than time. Unfortunately , I have more time than money. I'm going to shop around and try to find the best deal. I think other people aren't going to invest that time. They trust Greg Morris and are happy with the business they've done with him. I think it's as simple as that.
I never felt shill bidding was going on. When I do win items from him, it's a price that I like.
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