PWCC PSA2 T3 Cobb

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I reached out to Brent as soon as I became aware. Either the description will be updated to note the alteration or the listing will be pulled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f3k...outu.be&t=1680

Brent says here he cannot edit an auction once it starts. So is Brent really going to amend to disclose that one of his listings is in fact altered? Recall the Mantle that started it all. I would just instruct him to take the card down, now. Even if he discloses, it's just a problem when the buyer tries to clean up on a later listing without disclosing.

Get a refund through McKee or compensation from PSA.

[pokerplyr80]

After discussion with Brent we have agreed to let the auction continue. The following has been added to the description. I understand this is not what some of you would like to see but I feel it's a reasonable solution and discloses both the alteration and the fact that the card was bumped from it's previous holder.

*****NOTICE*****



After the time of listing it has been noticed that this card shows two faint eraser marks in the "o" of Cobb and Detroit on the bottom name plate. This detail was not included in the original description, so it is be disclosed now. Additionally, at the request of the submitter we would like to disclose that this same card was previously graded Authentic-Altered (PSA serial number 23331183). In our opinion the current grade of a 'Good 2' appears completely appropriate. Please bid accordingly.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

After discussion with Brent we have agreed to let the auction continue. The following has been added to the description. I understand this is not what some of you would like to see but I feel it's a reasonable solution and discloses both the alteration and the fact that the card was bumped from it's previous holder.

*****NOTICE*****



After the time of listing it has been noticed that this card shows two faint eraser marks in the "o" of Cobb and Detroit on the bottom name plate. This detail was not included in the original description, so it is be disclosed now. Additionally, at the request of the submitter we would like to disclose that this same card was previously graded Authentic-Altered (PSA serial number 23331183). In our opinion the current grade of a 'Good 2' appears completely appropriate. Please bid accordingly.

IMO...somewhat honorable that you 2 decided to disclose that info...yet you get deductions for feeling that the current grade is warranted/double speak. So it's kind of a wash to me.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

After discussion with Brent we have agreed to let the auction continue. The following has been added to the description. I understand this is not what some of you would like to see but I feel it's a reasonable solution and discloses both the alteration and the fact that the card was bumped from it's previous holder.

*****NOTICE*****



After the time of listing it has been noticed that this card shows two faint eraser marks in the "o" of Cobb and Detroit on the bottom name plate. This detail was not included in the original description, so it is be disclosed now. Additionally, at the request of the submitter we would like to disclose that this same card was previously graded Authentic-Altered (PSA serial number 23331183). In our opinion the current grade of a 'Good 2' appears completely appropriate. Please bid accordingly.

I gotta be honest...I think this is a terrible way to handle it.

There's no question the card is altered. None. To imply the grade is legit is dishonest at worst, disingenuous at best.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And what about the person who buys it and then resells it without that disclosure? IMO this is BS. You should take it down. You can't need the money that badly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The title has not changed. The amendment won't even be seen unless someone scrolls all the way to the very bottom after the pages of PWCC boilerplate. This is BS. I thought you had more integrity than this.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The title has not changed. The amendment won't even be seen unless someone scrolls all the way to the very bottom after the pages of PWCC boilerplate. This is BS. I thought you had more integrity than this.

there you go thinking again. I knew he didn't have any integrity after singing his friend Brenty Mastro's praises to anyone who would listen for weeks. This is just the kind of guy that he is, that they both are. SCAMMERS

Jesse and Brenty sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G

[bensie]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And what about the person who buys it and then resells it without that disclosure? IMO this is BS. You should take it down. You can't need the money that badly.

It's easy to spend someone else's money. Why don't you buy the card and have it reholdered?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bensie

It's easy to spend someone else's money. Why don't you buy the card and have it reholdered?

Not my card that is being sold fraudulently, bro.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not my card that is being sold fraudulently, bro.

Like I said, talk is cheap. Would love to see what you would actually do if it were your gravy on the line.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bensie

It's easy to spend someone else's money. Why don't you buy the card and have it reholdered?

point is that there is a way to recoup his $$$$$ it will just take a little more effort but it is the right thing to do.

[rhettyeakley]

Gotta admit that is a pretty weak way to handle this Jesse!

No mention it used to be in an Authentic holder previously? You really don't feel like that might be a important piece of information? I'm actually appalled that you feel like this is okay in any way shape or form, it also speaks volumes about Brent and his decision (despite everything that has gone on) to continue with this auction, he has learned nothing!

The work on that T3 destroyed that card, the edges are obviously messed with and they really butchered the erasure on the front, just terrible. Do you guys (you & Brent) need more proof that this card was altered?

I think we all know why Jesse was coming to Brent's defense here on the forum, far from an impartial observer.

Overall this is pathetic!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by bensie

It's easy to spend someone else's money. Why don't you buy the card and have it reholdered?

If only there was a company willing to reimburse him the current market value for a card that was Altered and put in a numbered holder...maybe they even have a Grade Guarantee or something that could be utilized in this fashion?

[rhettyeakley]

I read too fast and didn't see that Brent did mention that it had previously been graded authentic BUT I don't understand how a card can be holdered "AUTHENTIC" due to some alteration & then the said alterations were removed (and done so terribly) so in affect re-altering an already altered card somehow in you minds can be an accurate PSA 2? And only mentioned in small print at the end of the description? What is wrong with you guys?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If only there was a company willing to reimburse him the current market value for a card that was Altered and put in a numbered holder...maybe they even have a Grade Guarantee or something that could be utilized in this fashion?

Ya...the mentality of many in the hobby the last 10 or so years is that you just can't lose money...but it happens! Not every card only goes up in value? You win some...you lose some...no one wins them all unless you're a crook!

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

In our opinion the current grade of a 'Good 2' appears completely appropriate. Please bid accordingly.

This sentence feels like a proverbial middle finger to be honest.

They admit the card has had work done to it and that it was correctly graded as Authentic/Altered but now that it's in a 2 holder then F you, it's a 2 now sucker.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

This sentence feels like a proverbial middle finger to be honest.

They admit the card has had work done to it and that it was correctly graded as Authentic/Altered but now that it's in a 2 holder then F you, it's a 2 now sucker.

Of course no picture of the Authentic so people can judge the actual work.