Industry confronts allegations of card doctoring

[Johnny630]

We haven’t even addressed the Alleged Shill List.....is that even illegal anymore??? ??

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

We haven’t even addressed the Alleged Shill List.....is that even illegal anymore??? ??

Strangely it depends on your location. Definitely legal it Texas and the reason so many AHs are located there.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Strangely it depends on your location. Definitely legal it Texas and the reason so many AHs are located there.

I know the big auction house in Texas Says it’s legal for them to do it...it’s in their rules...guess if you disclose it prior in writing it’s Kosher.......I don’t like it and avoid even looking for those reasons...rigged playing field to me.....idk
I don’t know ...I’ve been saying this since 2015 many of these auction numbers appear to be fake ie artificially inflated this is all to me...maybe I’m off my rocker but I haven’t liked what’s been going on

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I know the big auction house in Texas Says it’s legal for them to do it...it’s in their rules...guess if you disclose it prior in writing it’s Kosher.......I don’t like it and avoid even looking for those reasons...rigged playing field to me.....idk
I don’t know ...I’ve been saying this since 2015 many of these auction numbers appear to be fake ie artificially inflated this is all to me...maybe I’m off my rocker but I haven’t liked what’s been going on

It's not because it's in their rules, it's in many cases completely legal even if not mentioned in terms and conditions. Basically you have to have a rule AGAINST it. Just like bid retractions are legal nation-wide. If a bid is accepted a retraction likewise must be accepted before the "hammer falls." You can't even have a policy forbidding retractions as it is protected in the UCC. You can however ban anyone you like from being able to bid in the first place.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It's not because it's in their rules, it's in many cases completely legal even if not mentioned in terms and conditions. Basically you have to have a rule AGAINST it. Just like bid retractions are legal nation-wide. If a bid is accepted a retraction likewise must be accepted before the "hammer falls." You can't even have a policy forbidding retractions as it is protected in the UCC. You can however ban anyone you like from being able to bid in the first place.

In other words is complete up to the AH to chose to attempt to police this or do nothing at all......Wild Wild West
This is very interesting to me...seems like a win win for consigner and a lose lose for bidder
+1 for removing them from your live auctions

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

We haven’t even addressed the Alleged Shill List.....is that even illegal anymore??? ??

Legal in most states as long as the purchase is completed. Usually means just paying the juice. We have a policy against it, but with any thought at all it can be hard to catch online. Live we've actually removed bidders.