You have $5000 to spend...

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by packs

Joe Jackson M101

It would have to be a pretty beat up example to sell for $5k. I would recommend a nice Cobb T206 Bat Off with a scarcer back. I don’t collect these but I think that card will do well.

[Rich Falvo]

If I could get a Drum back for my Providence T206 set for that price, I would. If not, a Broad Leaf.

[Brian Van Horn]

Put it in the bank and let the fraud in the hobby crest.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Put it in the bank and let the fraud in the hobby crest.

Full Agreement it’s better to be cash rich and card poor right now let it come it

[ruth_rookie]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Full Agreement it’s better to be cash rich and card poor right now let it come it

I’m beginning to feel this way as well, just can’t see the bull run of the past decade as sustainable, especially under these conditions. I had know way of predicting the fiasco that would end it though. Don’t think anyone did; if you did, well done. Guess I’ll just watch it play out from the sidelines, which isn’t something I’ve ever done. Never been a seller, always a buyer... till now. How sad.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I’m beginning to feel this way as well, just can’t see the bull run of the past decade as sustainable, especially under these conditions. I had know way of predicting the fiasco that would end it though. Don’t think anyone did; if you did, well done. Guess I’ll just watch it play out from the sidelines, which isn’t something I’ve ever done. Never been a seller, always a buyer... till now. How sad.

Don’t be sad....you’re smart enough to recognize it and take steps to protect
yourself .....there will be better times to buy :-) down the road.

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Put it in the bank and let the fraud in the hobby crest.

Yep.

I'm happy the postwar regional cards and coins I wrote about were not implicated in this latest mess. Whilst researching my book during 2003 - 2009, card doctoring was a hot topic from time to time on these boards. When I interviewed Rob Lifson, among the topics we discussed was that particular matter. He informed me, for instance, that Stahl-Meyer Franks cannot be doctored; the paraffin coating prevents any type of "fixin". Which, then, would also include Dan-Dees, Briggs, Esskays, Hunters, and Peters Meats, most of which are covered to some extent in NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN. The distinctive type of slick, "mirro-chrome" finish on the late 50s-early 60s Bell Brand and Morrell Meat Dodgers would also be restorative-proof. Ditto Dormand postcards, Coca-Cola premiums, and the color Kahn's regionals.

Honest, I'm not suggesting to collect all of the above. Just be reassured card doctoring can be thwarted in some instances. I know very well my little niche is perhaps a single percent of the focus of our members. This whole fiasco has been very disturbing, to say the least. The basic need of superior professional third party authenticating and grading is still there, and always will be. Let's not throw the baby, and the rest of his family, out with the bath water! We simply cannot go back to:

It's a screamer,
best I've ever seen,
best I've ever handled,
you could shave with this,
try to find another,
I swear it's the best you'll ever find in your life,
you never see them this nice,
bragging rights abound with this one,
etc., etc., etc.

I wonder if TPGs will honor their guarantees, and collectors will be refunded their money (i.e. that $5,000, as in the OP). It will be very tough to prove, and the pivotal matter of tracing back the provenance....

I know this post kinda diverts from the original discussion and intent; however, the uneasiness, anquish, and outright wrath in the hearts of those collectors affected, in one way or another, cannot be pooh-poohed and forum-banned away. It may take some more time before someone will eagerly wish to spend their 5 grand on a card.

--- Brian Powell

[CobbSpikedMe]

Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?

[Bicem]

Probably '07 HM Taylor Cobb or '07 Dietsche Batting Cobb.

Most importantly, nothing where value is mostly tied to condition/grade.

[mark evans]

I would buy the card(s) that I would most enjoy owning. Any effort to predict future values is, in my judgment, unreliable.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Probably '07 HM Taylor Cobb or '07 Dietsche Batting Cobb.

+1. This, or a 1921 Exhibit Ruth.

[ruth_rookie]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?

I’d go for a SGC 2-3 t206 Green Cobbie.

[prestigecollectibles]

low grade, but decent looking T201 set and 1933 Goudey Ruth #144

[Neal]

the best green Cobb I could find

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?

OK, Andy, I get it. If I had five grand, I'd want the nicest T-206 Ed Walsh I could get.

--- Brian Powell

[sreader3]

One of these ...

T206 Cobb Bat On PSA 4.5
T206 Cobb Bat Off PSA 4.5
T206 Cobb Red Portrait PSA 4.5
T206 Young Portrait PSA 5
T206 Johnson Portrait PSA 5
1933 Goudey Ruth PSA 4
1933 Goudey Gehrig PSA 5

Ship may have already sailed on many of these but maybe you will get lucky.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by brian1961

OK, Andy, I get it. If I had five grand, I'd want the nicest T-206 Ed Walsh I could get.

--- Brian Powell

Thanks Brian! Nice pick too by the way. I always liked the Walsh image.

[PolarBear]

T206 Green Cobb if I could only pick one card which would be pretty low grade at 5k, but I'd rather have the T206 Cubs lineup.