PWCC PSA2 T3 Cobb

[frankbmd]

Dear Abby,

I am asking for your advice about bidding on a PWCC auction.

Sincerely,



Try this, just copy and paste and send to www.DearAbby.com

[C-mack]

Lol made a comment on the wrong card , sorry haha

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

working now.

[jayshum]

The SGC card has an arrow pointing to Cobb's name on the back. I don't see a mark on the PSA 2 listing. Where are you seeing a pen mark?

[pokerplyr80]

It's a nice card that although accurately graded presents well for the grade. There is no pen mark on the card.

[BLongley]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It's a nice card that although accurately graded presents well for the grade. There is no pen mark on the card.

And since I’m on a roll here... Jesse I would think this comment from you was a bit inappropriate since you’re the consigned... saying it presents well for the grade is not an unbiased opinion....

[drcy]

Originally Posted by BLongley

And since I’m on a roll here... Jesse I would think this comment from you was a bit inappropriate since you’re the consigned... saying it presents well for the grade is not an unbiased opinion....

In the same thread he said on his own that it is his, so it can be forgiven.

[Kenny Cole]

OK. I think it is not wrong to say that I am not a Jesse fan. But fair is fair. He fessed up, and I am good with that. Thank you for at least being honest.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BLongley

And since I’m on a roll here... Jesse I would think this comment from you was a bit inappropriate since you’re the consigned... saying it presents well for the grade is not an unbiased opinion....

Regardless it is incorrect. However with "blood in the streets ", as one poster mentioned, surrounding some questionable bidding, ie irrefutable proof of their ID and Whitman running up auctions,doctored cards, including ones PWCC bought themselves having been doctored, etc. Quite a risk consigning to them at this time. I've never been one to spell things out for others, but it's getting easier to connect the dots day in and day out.

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[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by BLongley

And since I’m on a roll here... Jesse I would think this comment from you was a bit inappropriate since you’re the consigned... saying it presents well for the grade is not an unbiased opinion....

I figured it was clear from my comment that it was my card. Why else would I write it? How would I know it presents well if I hadn't seen it in hand? It was no secret I owned the card. I posted it here in the BST a while back. And I PM'd the OP at the same time I wrote that comment ironically to assure him it wasn't a Moser consignment but was mine and shouldn't be assumed to be altered because of where it is currently listed.

[BLongley]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I figured it was clear from my comment that it was my card. Why else would I write it? How would I know it presents well if I hadn't seen it in hand? It was no secret I owned the card. I posted it here in the BST a while back. And I PM'd the OP at the same time I wrote that comment ironically to assure him it wasn't a Moser consignment but was mine and shouldn't be assumed to be altered because of where it is currently listed.

It was 100% unclear based on your initial comment. It would have been clear if you wrote in your post that it was your card. You didn’t write that until much later, which based on your analysis would have been unnecessary, so not sure why you needed to state it later then.

At any rate, good luck getting your money back, because in all seriousness it does suck that PSA gave it a PSA 2 when it’s altered. Or perhaps Darby-S will refund you if you haven’t reached out to him yet.

[perezfan]

Good to know that it is quote, "seldom seen on the market as nearly all our locked up within private investment portfolios".

I didn't realize that collectors had completely given way to private investment portfolios. And maybe when they claim that all our locked up, they're looking into their own prospective futures.

[Kenny Cole]

I would not bid. But I will never bid with PWCC again, irrespective of what the card is. I've already missed out on some cards that were high on my list, but they weren't high enough for me to sink that low. Stuff should not trump all IMO. That is my personal belief. However, to each their own I suppose.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

I would not bid. But I will never bid with PWCC again, irrespective of what the card is. I've already missed out on some cards that were high on my list, but they weren't high enough for me to sink that low. Stuff should not trump all IMO. That is my personal belief. However, to each their own I suppose.

As I've said, Isis could run a successful auction if they had the "stuff." People would make excuses or just not care because it is so important to have that card.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I've said, Isis could run a successful auction if they had the "stuff." People would make excuses or just not care because it is so important to have that card.

Well, they know what the definition of is is.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I've said, Isis could run a successful auction if they had the "stuff." People would make excuses or just not care because it is so important to have that card.

Assuming you don't mean the hot 1970's TV show super hero on after Shazam!

[drcy]

[QUOTE=frankbmd;1895830]Dear Abby,

I am asking for your advice about bidding on a PWCC auction.

Sincerely,



Ann Lander's saying was "Wake up and smell the coffee"

[Republicaninmass]

[QUOTE=drcy;1896031]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Dear Abby,



I am asking for your advice about bidding on a PWCC auction.



Sincerely,







Ann Lander's saying was "Wake up and smell the coffee"

Or wait for Juan Valdez's donkey to crap on your lap

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[frankbmd]

[QUOTE=Republicaninmass;1896034]

Originally Posted by drcy

Or wait for Juan Valdez's donkey to crap on your lap

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Juan Valdez’s donkey was Colombian. In Costa Rica, a fellow really named Juan Valdez was used in an advertising campaign promoting Costa Rican coffee. I do not believe a donkey was used in the Costa Rican ads.

You can’t learn shit like this on any other baseball card message board.

[pokerplyr80]

In fairness to PWCC I bought this card a couple of years ago and consigned it recently. It was purchased on Ebay from a seller other than PWCC. Neither Brent nor I suspected it may have been altered. I will probably just pull the listing and determine what to do with it next.

[kateighty]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

In fairness to PWCC I bought this card a couple of years ago and consigned it recently. It was purchased on Ebay from a seller other than PWCC. Neither Brent nor I suspected it may have been altered. I will probably just pull the listing and determine what to do with it next.

Please do. Also clarify who exactly you purchased it from as that eBay sale should pop up upon running the cert number through PSA.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by kateighty

Please do. Also clarify who exactly you purchased it from as that eBay sale should pop up upon running the cert number through PSA.

PSA site is not entirely reliable in identifying sales.

[pokerplyr80]

My purchase is recorded on vcp if anyone cares to verify what I wrote.

[steve B]

Tried following the VCP link on the blowout post, and got ….

A black page with small text saying "Only gold members can view auction images click here to upgrade"

[BLongley]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

In fairness to PWCC I bought this card a couple of years ago and consigned it recently. It was purchased on Ebay from a seller other than PWCC. Neither Brent nor I suspected it may have been altered. I will probably just pull the listing and determine what to do with it next.

Really? This Cobb is yours? At this point in time we know Brent sees dollar signs and is full of it, and we clearly can’t accept his opinion on anything in this hobby he is doing such great things for.

You now own a T3 Cobb that had pencil marks clearly on the O’s in Cobb and clearly erased now with the before and after photos.

Sorry for your loss, but at least someone else won’t be duped and assuming you bought it in the PSA 2 holder you can try and take it up with PSA to get your money back?

[BLongley]

And for anyone interested here is the link to BO with the Cobb and a couple others including a T206 Matty Portrait with apparent Moser ties.... who Brent and Betsy are no longer selling any cards of BTW...

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1304350

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by BLongley

Really? This Cobb is yours? At this point in time we know Brent sees dollar signs and is full of it, and we clearly can’t accept his opinion on anything in this hobby he is doing such great things for.

You now own a T3 Cobb that had pencil marks clearly on the O’s in Cobb and clearly erased now with the before and after photos.

Sorry for your loss, but at least someone else won’t be duped and assuming you bought it in the PSA 2 holder you can try and take it up with PSA to get your money back?

I’m sure Jesse will do the right thing and pull the card...

Please let us know how it goes with PSA in terms of getting your “guarantee” fulfilled. We would love to see a concrete example of PSA making good on their guarantee. PWCC has issued a few recent refunds. But very eager to hear if PSA will honor their word and make you whole.

Let us know....

A. If they make the return process customer-friendly (at least as easy as it is when THEY take YOUR money). You now have concrete evidence, after all.

B. If they try to push back, and say that you need to be made whole by the seller.

C. If they do refund you, how long is the wait to receive your money from PSA?

I personally am not holding my breath, but perhaps they’ll do the right thing? You could represent the first documented example on net54.