cert. numbers in proximity to cards outed on Blowout

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-30-2019, 10:16 PM

21714123 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #24 JIM MARTIN RED BACKGROUND VG-EX 4
21714125 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #26 BOB WATERFIELD BLACK NAME ON FRONT EX 5
21714126 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #70 PHIL O'REILLY NM 7
21714127 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #46 JACK JACOBS JERSEY #27 IN PHOTO EX 5
21714128 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #25 BUD ANGSMAN BLACK NAME ON FRONT EX-MT 6
21714129 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #73 JACKIE JENSEN RED BACKGRND, ERR.JACKEY NM-MT 8
21714130 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #90 JOE WHISLER EX-MT 6
21714136 1888 N28 ALLEN & GINTER MULTI-SPORT CARDS # JOSEPH MULVEY BASEBALL EX 5
21714138 1888 N28 ALLEN & GINTER MULTI-SPORT CARDS # TIMOTHY KEEFE BASEBALL GOOD 2
21714139 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # ARTHUR IRWIN CATCH, HANDS CUPPED... GOOD 2 5/29/2017 $150.00 eBay (one-of-ones)
21714140 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # BILL COLLINS SLIDING-HORIZONTAL FORMAT EX 5
21714141 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # KID MADDEN BAT IN L/HAND AT SIDE EX 5

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-30-2019, 10:16 PM

21680140 1948 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #6 YOGI BERRA EX-MT 6 5/8/2017 $627.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21680141 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #100 GIL HODGES NM 7 7/23/2015 $210.00 Greg Bussineau Auctions
21680142 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #110 EARLY WYNN EX 5
21680143 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #15 BABE RUTH EX 5
21680144 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #82 REMBRANDT EX-MT 6
21680145 1952 BERK ROSS BASEBALL CARDS # WILLIE MAYS NM-MT 8 8/15/2014 $1,029.11 Mile High Card Company
21680146 1932 U.S. CARAMEL MULTI-SPORT CARDS #12 MICKEY COCHRANE BASEBALL NM 7
21680147 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #1 JOE DI MAGGIO VG-EX+ 4.5
21680148 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #1 JACK DEMPSEY EX-MT 6
21680149 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #64 RAY ROBINSON EX+ 5.5
21680150 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #1 SID LUCKMAN YELLOW BACKGROUND NM 7 9/22/2016 $6,000.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21680151 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #2 STEVE SUHEY NM-MT 8
21680153 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #6 BOBBY LAYNE YELLOW PANTS, ERR.BOBBIE NM 7
21680154 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #36 BILL DUDLEY EX-MT 6
21680155 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #45 JIM WHITE VG-EX+ 4.5
21680156 1940 PLAY BALL BASEBALL CARDS #27 TED WILLIAMS VG-EX+ 4.5
21680157 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #50 GORDIE HOWE VG-EX 4
21680158 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #27 JEAN BELIVEAU NM 7
21680159 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #123 SANDY KOUFAX EX-MT 6

darwinbulldog · #3 06-30-2019, 10:35 PM

Someone should read the whole list on the Senate floor.

the 'stache · #4 07-09-2019, 12:53 AM

Peter et all, the one thing that most surprises me when examining these altered cards is that unique identifiers are being left in place by the card doctors. These may well serve as the one saving grace for those seeking restitution.

Knowing these perpetrators are skilled enough to materially improve cards, slipping their changes past PSA in the process, one would think they'd have the foresight to spend just a few extra minutes to get rid of these obvious marks, whenever feasible. Their mere existence constitutes irrefutable evidence of alteration, analogous to a burglar leaving their fingerprints at the scene of a robbery.

Consider the back of this '53 Parkhurst Dickie Moore:

Forget the egregious whiff the graders are guilty of in not detecting trimming. And set aside, for a moment, the gnawing suspicion that PSA could possibly be complicit in something nefarious, their opinions improved upon in deference to one of their biggest clients. The card doctors know that scans of the card they are about to alter exist, for both sides. Why then would they leave these fingerprints behind?

I don't know what the PSA population is for 1953 Parkhurst Dickie Moores, nor do I care. But I wouldn't expect that mid and high grade examples shows up every day. If PSA is dutifully protecting the consumer against fraud, how hard would it be for a grader to pull up scans of the same card, say PSA 5, or higher, especially when their concerted professional opinion assigns the card a 9 grade, only the sixth one ever to grade at that level? A healthy amount of skepticism is warranted, wouldn't you agree?

These card doctors and sellers should be held accountable to the fullest extent of civil law. But it is my sneaking suspicion that they are not the biggest fish in this malodorous pond.

brob28 · #5 07-01-2019, 06:30 AM

Thank you for the updates Peter.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 07-01-2019, 06:56 AM

All thanks go to the dealer on Blowout who is generating these lists.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 07-01-2019, 01:49 PM

21588578 1948 BOWMAN FOOTBALL CARDS #29 PAT HARDER EX 5
21588579 1948 BOWMAN FOOTBALL CARDS #17 CHARLIE TRIPPI NM-MT 8
21588580 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #110 EARLY WYNN EX 5
21588581 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #46 ROBIN ROBERTS MINT 9 9/7/2016 $2,601.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588582 1951 BOWMAN FOOTBALL CARDS #4 NORM VAN BROCKLIN NM 7
21588583 1952 BERK ROSS BASEBALL CARDS # BOB LEMON NM-MT 8
21588585 1952 BERK ROSS BASEBALL CARDS # VIC RASCHI EX 5
21588586 1952 BERK ROSS BASEBALL CARDS # PEE WEE REESE NM-MT 8
21588587 1952 BERK ROSS BASEBALL CARDS # TED WILLIAMS NM-MT 8
21588588 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #3 JAKE LaMOTTA EX-MT 6 9/27/2017 $55.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588589 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #9 RUDY & EMIL DUSEK NM+ 7.5 10/29/2017 $32.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588590 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #14 ROLAND LaSTARZA NM-MT+ 8.5 10/29/2017 $95.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588591 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #16 ART ARAGON NM+ 7.5
21588592 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #24 JAMES J. BRADDOCK NM 7
21588593 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #25 BOB BAKER NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $43.25 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588594 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #26 JOE MICELI NM-MT 8 10/29/2018 $62.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588595 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #32 ROCKY MARCIANO EX-MT 6
21588596 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #33 WALTER CARTIER NM+ 7.5
21588597 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #36 VIC TOWEEL MINT 9 3/23/2018 $711.73 Mile High Card Company
21588598 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #40 CESAR BRION NM-MT 8 3/23/2018 $101.68 Mile High Card Company
21588599 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #42 TIGER FLOWERS NM 7
21588600 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #43 RAY ROBINSON NM-MT 8
21588601 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #46 RUBY GOLDSTEIN NM 7
21588602 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #48 ROCKY CASTELLANI EX 5
21588603 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #56 JOE GANS NM 7
21588604 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #66 LUIS FIRPO NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $74.78 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588605 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #68 STEVE BELLOISE NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $269.01 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588606 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #89 CARLOS CHAVEZ EX 5
21588607 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #1 FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT NM-MT 8
21588608 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #15 BABE RUTH EX-MT 6 3/28/2014 $1,129.31 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
21588609 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #30 CHARLES LINDBERGH NM-MT 8 5/23/2017 $177.50 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588610 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #32 DOUGLAS MacARTHUR MINT 9
21588611 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #36 GEN. C. CHENNAULT NM-MT 8
21588612 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #39 GEN. GEORGE PATTON NM-MT 8
21588613 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #75 ELIAS HOWE NM-MT 8
21588614 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #82 REMBRANDT VG-EX 4
21588615 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #84 JULIUS CAESAR EX-MT 6
21588616 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #99 LESTER B. PEARSON NM 7
21588617 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #105 LEONARDO DA VINCI NM-MT 8 5/23/2017 $61.99 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588618 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #112 JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER NM 7
21588620 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #121 EMILE ZOLA NM 7
21588621 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #126 LEIF ERICSON EX-MT+ 6.5
21588622 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #127 GALILEO NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $154.01 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588623 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #135 DOLLY MADISON VG-EX 4 (MC)
21588625 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #53 ALEX DELVECCHIO NM 7
21588626 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #87 TED LINDSAY NM-MT 8
21588627 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #39 EWELL BLACKWELL EX-MT 6 5/8/2017 $56.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588628 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #59 LUCIUS APPLING NM 7
21588629 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #91 RALPH KINER NM-MT 8
21588630 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #108 MATTHEW BATTS NM-MT 8
21588631 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #117 JOE GORDON NM 7 11/8/2016 $335.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21588632 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #129 KIRBY HIGBE EX-MT+ 6.5
21588633 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #1 SID LUCKMAN YELLOW BACKGROUND EX 5
21588634 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #3 BULLDOG TURNER BRIGHT YELLOW PANTS EX+ 5.5 9/17/2016 $79.99 eBay (pmur3116)
21588635 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #4 DOAK WALKER NM 7
21588636 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #5 LEVI JACKSON BLUE JERSEY NM 7
21588637 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #6 BOBBY LAYNE YELLOW PANTS, ERR.BOBBIE NM 7
21588638 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #15 CHARLIE JUSTICE NM 7
21588639 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #21 PAUL CHRISTMAN EX-MT 6
21588640 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #38 FRANK DANCEWICZ NM-MT 8
21588641 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #46 JACK JACOBS JERSEY #27 IN PHOTO NM-MT 8
21588642 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #57 EUGENE ROSSIDES GOOD 2
21588643 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #60 RICHARD HARRIS NM 7
21588644 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #61 LEN YOUNCE NM-MT 8
21588645 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #64 FRANK SENO NM-MT 8
21588646 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #67 HARRELL COLLINS NM-MT 8
21588647 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #74 RUSS STEGER EX-MT 6
21588649 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #1 JACK DEMPSEY EX-MT 6
21588650 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #7 MICKEY WALKER NM-MT 8
21588651 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #32 MAX SCHMELING NM 7
21588652 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #38 JACK SHARKEY NM 7
21588654 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #51 WILLIE PEP NM+ 7.5
21588655 1940 SUPERMAN NON-SPORT CARDS #44 DISASTER AT THE CIRCUS FR 1.5
21588656 1940 PLAY BALL BASEBALL CARDS #141 CASEY STENGEL NM-MT 8
21588657 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #9 TOE BLAKE EX-MT 6
21588658 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #12 ED CHADWICK VG-EX 4
21588659 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #22 JACQUES PLANTE VG-EX+ 4.5
21588660 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #46 JOHNNY BOWER ERR-MISSPELLED BOWERS EX 5
21588661 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #13 TIM HORTON EX 5
21588662 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #24 MAURICE RICHARD VG 3
21588663 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #40 RED KELLY NM 7
21588664 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #46 TERRY SAWCHUK EX-MT 6
21588665 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #53 GUMP WORSLEY EX-MT 6
21588666 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #58 HY BULLER NM-MT 8
21588667 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #69 JIM PETERS NM-MT 8
21588668 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #100 BILL QUACKENBUSH NM-MT 8

Peter_Spaeth · #8 07-01-2019, 01:50 PM

Please refer to first post

21474898 1951 parkhurst hockey cards #29 milt schmidt nm-mt 8
21474899 1951 parkhurst hockey cards #28 woody dumart nm+ 7.5
21474901 1948 leaf football cards #61 len younce nm 7
21474902 1948 leaf football cards #8 vince banonis black name on front nm 7
21474903 1948 leaf football cards #15 charlie justice nm-mt 8
21474904 1953 topps baseball cards #238 cal hogue nm 7
21474906 1958 topps baseball cards #370 yogi berra nm+ 7.5
21474907 1952 topps baseball cards #15 johnny pesky ex 5
21474908 1952 topps baseball cards #58 bob mahoney black back ex 5
21474909 1952 topps baseball cards #122 jack jensen nm 7

Peter_Spaeth · #9 07-01-2019, 01:50 PM

21474941 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #310 ERV DUSAK MINT 9 8/15/2015 $577.19 Memory Lane, Inc.
21474942 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #229 BILL HOWERTON NM 7
21474943 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #100 SHERMAN LOLLAR NM-MT 8
21474944 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #192 HANK WYSE MINT 9 5/10/2015 $317.87 Memory Lane, Inc.
21474946 1953 BOWMAN COLOR BASEBALL CARDS #82 JOE ASTROTH EX-MT 6
21474948 1954 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #213 DICK LITTLEFIELD NM-MT+ 8.5
21474949 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARDS # SHERMAN LOLLAR NM-MT+ 8.5
21474950 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARDS # HARVEY KUENN NM 7
21474951 1954 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #147 JOHN RIDDLE MINT 9 2/12/2019 $750.86 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21474952 1954 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #210 BOB BUHL NM+ 7.5
21474955 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #96 CHARLIE BISHOP EX-MT 6
21474956 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #97 CARLOS PAULA NM-MT+ 8.5
21474958 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #142 JERRY LYNCH NM-MT+ 8.5
21474959 1956 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #315 MILT BOLLING NM 7
21474960 1956 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #106 JOE ASTROTH GRAY BACK MINT 9 6/16/2017 $218.70 Mile High Card Company
21474961 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #295 JOE COLLINS NM-MT 8
21474962 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #183 CUBS TEAM NM-MT 8
21474963 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #61 DUSTY RHODES NM-MT+ 8.5
21474964 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #256 RONNIE KLINE NM-MT 8
21474965 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #134 DON KAISER NM-MT 8
21474967 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #354 RIP COLEMAN NM-MT+ 8.5 First Sale: 2/9/2017 $106.27 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21474968 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #230 GEORGE KELL NM-MT 8
21474969 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #308 DICK HALL NM-MT 8
21474970 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #353 CAL NEEMAN MINT 9
21474971 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #140 FRANK THOMAS NM-MT 8
21474972 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #211 CAMILO PASCUAL NM-MT 8
21474973 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #231 SOLLY HEMUS NM-MT 8
21474974 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #206 WILLARD SCHMIDT MINT 9
21474975 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #162 JACK MEYER MINT 9
21474976 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #182 HOBIE LANDRITH MINT 9
21474977 1953 BOWMAN COLOR BASEBALL CARDS #146 EARLY WYNN EX 5
21474981 1963 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #20 KING CLANCY NM-MT 8
21474982 1955 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #62 BABE SEIBERT EX-MT+ 6.5
21474983 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #32 TED HARRIS NM-MT 8
21474984 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #25 PAT STAPLETON NM-MT 8
21474985 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #81 ERNIE WAKELY MINT 9
21474986 1972 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #277 RICK KEHOE NM-MT 8
21474987 1972 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #312 TED TAYLOR NM-MT 8
21474988 1972 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #322 BOB LEDUC NM-MT 8
21474989 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #39 VIC STASIUK EX-MT 6
21474990 1957 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #50 FORBES KENNEDY NM 7
21474991 1958 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #36 PIERRE PILOTE NM-MT 8
21474992 1958 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #57 EARL REIBEL NM 7
21474993 1969 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #34 ARNIE BROWN MINT 9
21474994 1969 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #117 KEN SCHINKEL MINT 9
21474995 1963 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #14 BOB LEITER NM-MT 8
21474996 1979 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #175 GORDIE HOWE NM 7
21474997 1980 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #195 MIKE GARTNER MINT 9
21474998 1967 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #28 BOB NEVIN NM-MT 8
21474999 1962 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #39 KEN WHARRAM MINT 9
21475000 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #202 GARY DORNHOEFER NM-MT 8
21475001 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #1 POUL POPIEL NM-MT 8
21475002 1971 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #116 JIM ROBERTS NM 7
21475003 1972 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #216 BRIAN GLENNIE NM 7
21475004 1972 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #224 JIM PETERS NM-MT 8
21475005 1959 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #39 BOB ARMSTRONG NM-MT 8
21475006 1959 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #39 BOB ARMSTRONG NM-MT 8
21475007 1959 TOPPS HOCKEY CARDS #38 JERRY TOPPAZZINI NM-MT 8
21475010 1963 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #40 CESARE MANIAGO NM 7
21475011 1959 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #3 CARL BREWER NM-MT 8 9/26/2017 $160.38 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21475012 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #5 ALBERT LANGLOIS NM-MT+ 8.5
21475013 1958 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #2 HENRI RICHARD NM-MT 8 11/3/2016 $768.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21475014 1957 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #21 BARRY CULLEN EX 5
21475015 1957 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #8 DON MARSHALL NM-MT 8
21475016 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #17 AL DEWSBURY NM-MT+ 8.5
21475017 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #9 TOM JOHNSON NM-MT 8
21475018 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #102 ROBERT McLEOD NM-MT 8
21475019 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #67 RED KELLY EX-MT+ 6.5
21475020 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #79 RAGS RAGLAN MINT 9
21475021 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #45 BENNY WOIT NM+ 7.5
21475022 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #95 WARREN GODFREY MINT 9
21475023 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #77 JIM McFADDEN MINT 9
21475024 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #51 JOHN WILSON NM-MT 8 3/6/2019 $72.00 eBay (probstein123)
21475025 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #43 TONY LESWICK NM 7
21475026 1954 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #58 DAVE CREIGHTON NM-MT 8
21475027 1954 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #12 KENNY MOSDELL NM+ 7.5
21475028 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #209 BOB SKINNER NM-MT 8 5/13/2018 $43.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21475030 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #82 JOE PAGE EX-MT 6
21475031 1976 O-PEE-CHEE BASEBALL CARDS #98 DENNIS ECKERSLEY NM-MT 8
21475032 1956 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #248 BOB PORTERFIELD GEM MT 10

Peter_Spaeth · #10 07-01-2019, 01:51 PM

21306223 1909-11 T206 SWEET CAPORAL 350/30 BASEBALL CARDS # TY COBB PORTRAIT-GREEN GOOD 2 2/25/2018 $4,080.00 Heritage Auctions
21306224 1951 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #48 DOUG BENTLEY VG-EX 4
21306228 1948 BOWMAN BASKETBALL CARDS #57 ARTHUR SPECTOR NM-MT 8
21306229 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #37 EUGENE HAIRSTON NM 7
21306230 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #68 STEVE BELLOISE NM-MT 8 3/23/2018 $637.00 Mile High Card Company
21306231 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #69 JOHN L. SULLIVAN NM+ 7.5
21306232 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #66 LUIS FIRPO NM 7
21306233 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #48 KEN RAFFENSBERGER NM+ 7.5
21306234 1952 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #24 CARL FURILLO NM+ 7.5
21306235 1952 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #23 STEPHEN KRAFTCHECK NM-MT 8
21306237 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #3 THOMAS JEFFERSON NM-MT 8
21306238 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #7 ULYSSES S. GRANT NM-MT 8
21306239 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #15 BABE RUTH NM 7
21306240 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #17 PATRICK HENRY NM-MT 8
21306241 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #18 WASHINGTON IRVING NM-MT 8
21306242 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #19 ALEXANDER HAMILTON NM 7
21306243 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #26 WASHINGTON CARVER NM-MT 8
21306244 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #43 ELEANOR ROOSEVELT NM-MT+ 8.5
21306245 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #47 ROBERT E. PEARY NM-MT 8
21306246 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #55 DANIEL BOONE NM-MT 8 5/23/2017 $34.01 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306247 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #75 ELIAS HOWE NM+ 7.5
21306248 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #90 BENEDICT ARNOLD NM-MT+ 8.5
21306249 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #102 ANNE OF CLEVES NM-MT 8 5/23/2017 $29.66 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306250 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #106 MACHIAVELLI NM-MT 8
21306251 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #108 MICHELANGELO NM 7
21306252 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #110 NERO NM-MT 8
21306253 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #111 F. NIGHTINGALE NM 7
21306254 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #119 H.G. WELLS NM-MT+ 8.5
21306255 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #122 CAPT. WILLIAM KIDD NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $39.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306256 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #123 SIR HENRY MORGAN NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $33.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306257 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #124 CHARLES DARWIN NM 7
21306258 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #128 GENGHIS KHAN NM-MT 8 3/27/2019 $34.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306259 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #131 HENRY HUDSON NM+ 7.5
21306260 1952 LOOK 'N SEE NON-SPORT CARDS #135 DOLLY MADISON VG-EX 4
21306261 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #7 BILL FISCHER RED BACKGROUND AT KNEES EX 5
21306262 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #21 PAUL CHRISTMAN EX+ 5.5
21306263 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #25 BUD ANGSMAN BLACK NAME ON FRONT NM 7
21306264 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #26 BOB WATERFIELD BLACK NAME ON FRONT NM+ 7.5 5/17/2017 $560.01 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306265 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #30 PAUL GOVERNALI DARKER BROWN HELMET EX-MT 6
21306266 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #32 LEROY ZIMMERMAN GRAY JERSEY NUMBERS NM-MT 8
21306267 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #39 BILLY DEWELL NM 7
21306268 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #40 JOHN NOLAN NM-MT 8
21306269 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #44 BOB MANN NM 7
21306271 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #47 JOHN CLEMENT EX-MT+ 6.5
21306272 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #51 MIKE DIMITRO DARK YELLOW PANTS NM 7
21306273 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #64 FRANK SENO NM 7
21306274 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #82 FRED ENKE EX+ 5.5
21306275 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #7 MICKEY WALKER EX-MT+ 6.5
21306276 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #35 HENRY ARMSTRONG NM 7
21306277 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #51 WILLIE PEP VG-EX+ 4.5
21306278 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #77 TONY CANZONERI NM 7
21306279 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #98 HARRY FORBES EX-MT+ 6.5
21306280 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #16 CHARLEY TRIPPI NM 7
21306281 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #22 BILL DUDLEY EX 5
21306282 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #74 TONY MINISI EX 5
21306283 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #110 WILLIAM SWIACKI EX 5
21306284 1939 PLAY BALL BASEBALL CARDS #20 JOE HEVING NM 7
21306285 1939 PLAY BALL BASEBALL CARDS #129 BILL SWIFT NM-MT 8 3/12/2019 $186.50 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
21306286 1939 PLAY BALL BASEBALL CARDS #141 PETE COSCARART NM 7
21306288 1937 O-PEE-CHEE HOCKEY CARDS #153 GEORGE MANTHA SERIES E VG-EX+ 4.5
21306289 1959 FLEER TED WILLIAMS BASEBALL CARDS #1 THE EARLY YEARS EX-MT 6
21306290 1956 ADVENTURE NON-SPORT CARDS #44 BROCKTON BLOCKBUSTER NM-MT 8
21306291 1957 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #19 BERT OLMSTEAD NM-MT 8
21306292 1954 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #94 MEGER GOES DOWN AND UNDER NM 7
21306293 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #59 CHUCK RAYNER NM 7
21306294 1953 PARKHURST HOCKEY CARDS #91 FLEMING MacKELL ERROR-NO BIO VG-EX 4
21306295 1956 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #101 ROY CAMPANELLA GRAY BACK NM-MT 8
21306297 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #149 RAY CRONE NM 7
21306298 1955 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #118 BOB PURKEY NM 7

ejharrington · #11 07-08-2019, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

21714123 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #24 JIM MARTIN RED BACKGROUND VG-EX 4
21714125 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #26 BOB WATERFIELD BLACK NAME ON FRONT EX 5
21714126 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #70 PHIL O'REILLY NM 7
21714127 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #46 JACK JACOBS JERSEY #27 IN PHOTO EX 5
21714128 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #25 BUD ANGSMAN BLACK NAME ON FRONT EX-MT 6
21714129 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #73 JACKIE JENSEN RED BACKGRND, ERR.JACKEY NM-MT 8
21714130 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #90 JOE WHISLER EX-MT 6
21714136 1888 N28 ALLEN & GINTER MULTI-SPORT CARDS # JOSEPH MULVEY BASEBALL EX 5
21714138 1888 N28 ALLEN & GINTER MULTI-SPORT CARDS # TIMOTHY KEEFE BASEBALL GOOD 2
21714139 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # ARTHUR IRWIN CATCH, HANDS CUPPED... GOOD 2 5/29/2017 $150.00 eBay (one-of-ones)
21714140 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # BILL COLLINS SLIDING-HORIZONTAL FORMAT EX 5
21714141 1887 N172 OLD JUDGE BASEBALL CARDS # KID MADDEN BAT IN L/HAND AT SIDE EX 5

Can anyone tell approximately how long ago this submission was done based on the certification numbers? Thanks

swarmee · #12 07-09-2019, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejharrington

Can anyone tell approximately how long ago this submission was done based on the certification numbers? Thanks

Summer 2013.
I do it by searching for a year on COMC, then filter by Graded/PSA, then sort by Recently added and go to the last page.
Here is one from Panini Father's Day set which has a 21,8xx,xxx cert number:

2013 Panini Father's Day - Studio - Lava Flow #22 - Robert Griffin III [PSA*10*GEM*MT]
Courtesy of COMC.com
So it was graded in Summer 2013.

ejharrington · #13 07-09-2019, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee

Summer 2013.
I do it by searching for a year on COMC, then filter by Graded/PSA, then sort by Recently added and go to the last page.
Here is one from Panini Father's Day set which has a 21,8xx,xxx cert number:

2013 Panini Father's Day - Studio - Lava Flow #22 - Robert Griffin III [PSA*10*GEM*MT]
Courtesy of COMC.com
So it was graded in Summer 2013.

Thank you.

ejharrington · #14 07-09-2019, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee

Summer 2013.
I do it by searching for a year on COMC, then filter by Graded/PSA, then sort by Recently added and go to the last page.
Here is one from Panini Father's Day set which has a 21,8xx,xxx cert number:

2013 Panini Father's Day - Studio - Lava Flow #22 - Robert Griffin III [PSA*10*GEM*MT]
Courtesy of COMC.com
So it was graded in Summer 2013.

I actually have a follow up question. I followed this card through based on the instructions you gave and I see it on COMC but what exactly do you see that allows you to determine that it was graded in the summer of 2013? In other words, even though this was a 2013 card issued in the summer of 2013, couldn't it have been submitted to PSA after this?

swarmee · #15 07-09-2019, 07:21 AM

Not really for this region of cert numbers. If you look at football cards released during football season 2013, their certs exceed that number.
Cards that started with 30M, 50M, and 90M could have been from many years previous, because PSA did go out of order sometimes.

Peter_Spaeth · #16 07-09-2019, 10:14 PM

Refer to first post.

42879201 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #75 WES WESTRUM NM+ 7.5 First Sale: 5/9/2019 $355.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
42879203 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #77 BOB KENNEDY BLACK BACK NM-MT 8 First Sale: 5/9/2019 $1,203.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
42879205 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #196 SOLLY HEMUS MINT 9 First Sale: 5/9/2019 $1,204.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
42879207 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #205 CLYDE KING MINT 9 First Sale: 5/9/2019 $1,312.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
42879209 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #293 SIBBY SISTI EX-MT 6
42879211 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #320 JOHN RUTHERFORD NM-MT 8 First Sale: 5/9/2019 $11,134.70 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
42879213 1955 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #179 HANK AARON NM 7 First Sale: 6/12/2019 $699.01 eBay (pwcc_auctions)

Peter_Spaeth · #17 07-09-2019, 10:14 PM

15806168 1911 C55 HOCKEY CARDS #40 R. (ROCKET) POWER EX-MT+ 6.5
15806171 1910 C56 HOCKEY CARDS #30 ERNEST JOHNSTON (JOHNSON) EX-MT+ 6.5
15806174 1950 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #33 RALPH KINER NM-MT+ 8.5 First Sale: 2/10/2010 $682.68 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806175 1951 TOPPS RINGSIDE BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #32 ROCKY MARCIANO NM+ 7.5 First Sale: 3/27/2019 $798.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions)
15806176 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #1 WHITEY FORD EX-MT 6 First Sale: 2/10/2010 $616.88 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806178 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #17 PETE CASTIGLIONE MINT 9
15806179 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #110 BOBBY BROWN EX-MT 6
15806180 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #176 VIC WERTZ MINT 9 First Sale: 2/10/2010 $1,979.88 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806181 1951 BOWMAN BASEBALL CARDS #301 TOMMY GLAVIANO MINT 9 First Sale: 2/10/2010 $1,115.08 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806182 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #86 RALPH WEIGEL NM-MT 8
15806183 1948 LEAF BASEBALL CARDS #56 LARRY JENSEN NM 7
15806184 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #29 CHARLEY TRIPPI NM 7
15806185 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #18 HARRY GILMER NM 7
15806186 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #5 LEVI JACKSON BLUE JERSEY EX 5
15806187 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #3 BULLDOG TURNER RED BACKGROUND EX+ 5.5
15806188 1948 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #2 STEVE SUHEY EX 5
15806189 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #150 CLYDE TURNER NM 7
15806190 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #89 BOB WATERFIELD EX 5
15806192 1949 LEAF FOOTBALL CARDS #15 SID LUCKMAN NM 7 First Sale: 8/12/2017 $228.00 Love of the Game Auctions
15806193 1948 LEAF BOXING/WRESTLING CARDS/MMA #17 JACK JOHNSON NM-MT+ 8.5 First Sale: 3/29/2013 $634.27 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806194 1959 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #563 WILLIE MAYS ALL STAR NM-MT 8
15806196 1957 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #25 WHITEY FORD NM-MT+ 8.5 First Sale: 2/10/2010 $752.00 Goodwin and Co. Auctions
15806197 1957 TOPPS BASKETBALL CARDS #80 DICK SCHNITTKER NM 7
15806198 1954 BOWMAN FOOTBALL CARDS #4 DOUG ATKINS NM-MT 8
15806199 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #64 HOWARD HARTLEY NM+ 7.5
15806200 1975 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS #223 ROBIN YOUNT MINT 9
15806201 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #21 BILL HOWTON EX-MT+ 6.5
15806202 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #44 BABE PARILLI EX-MT 6
15806203 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #7 CHUCK HUNSINGER EX+ 5.5
15806204 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #52 JIM MARTIN NM 7
15806205 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #53 JOE BACH EX-MT 6
15806206 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #79 BOB HOERNSCHEMEYER NM 7
15806207 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #87 MAL COOK NM 7
15806208 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #96 BILL WIGHTKIN NM 7
15806209 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #102 ROBERT JOE CROSS NM 7
15806210 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #104 BUDDY YOUNG EX-MT 6
15806211 1952 BOWMAN LARGE FOOTBALL CARDS #123 EDDIE PRICE NM 7

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