What's there left to say at this point? Anyone just buy this 33 Gehrig?

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by ajg

Here is the solution tho this mess. And make no mistake this is a disaster. However we cannot undo what has already been done. If we want to stay in the hobby we need to assume that ALL graded cards are altered unless proven otherwise. The TPGs created this mess but if we want to stay and enjoy the hobby we need to reassess what a graded card is worth. I will be developing a new scale for what a graded card is.

For example a PSA 8oc used to = a PSA 6 and we paid accordingly. Basically that was the rule of thumb.

Now my new grading scale will be the same 2 point deduction. Sort of similar to a gymnastics scoring.

PSA 7 old = PSA 5 today
PSA 2 old = PSA authentic today

No such thing anymore as a PSA 9 or 10. Those days are gone thanks to 18 year old graders with no clue. These grading companies do not need a curtain to hide behind anymore at the National. We know that the kids looking at these cards are 18 year olds with back packs munching on Oreo's.

Let’s stick to facts in these trying times. Plenty of legitimate things to complain about. This myth of the inexperienced 18 year old graders is a-pipe dream a made up story. Let’s stick to the facts please. Like I said enough legitimate stuff to discuss. Inaccuracies just water down the facts.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Let’s stick to facts in these trying times. Plenty of legitimate things to complain about. This myth of the inexperienced 18 year old graders is a-pipe dream a made up story. Let’s stick to the facts please. Like I said enough legitimate stuff to discuss. Inaccuracies just water down the facts.

Ok, so they’re not all 18 years old. That excuse actually would have been far more acceptable/preferable to whatever reality is.

How would you explain the sheer incompetence then?

Poor eyesight?
Favorable treatment for “certain customers”?
General ineptitude at the one thing they’re employed to do?

I believe the “18 year old” explanation is far less damning than anything else that can be conjured up in PSA’s defense.

[glynparson]

Incompetence doesn’t mean they are 18 year old kids. Stop it you’re wrong. Like I said stick to facts they have no 18 year old graders. But keep coming if you want you’re foolish and you’re wrong. Go after the incompetence not the false narrative that these are 18 year old kids doing the grading. Most are in their 40s-50s. These are facts not made up BS stories.

[steve B]

I did some really good work when I was 18. Good enough he shop had me fill in on the 35" press my last week.

And I know a few kids who really have their stuff together, and did well before they were 18.

[cardsnstuff]

Personally, I think if the altering were disclosed, I would consider that acceptable, although I am not buying any of those 50-100k cards anyway.

[MULLINS5]

She removed the Gehrig post from her FB

[packs]

Why are people so convinced that teenagers can't be intelligent people?

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