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Old 06-19-2019, 06:29 PM
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Close but no cigar. Who cares about strikeouts? An out is an out. Career 3.71 ERA, 1.26 WHIP--Good, not great.
No, an out that is not a K can advance runners.
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No, an out that is not a K can advance runners.
A strikeout can advance runners, although rarely. On the flip side a ball in play is much more likely to become a double play than a strikeout. I believe extensive analysis has been done on this by SABR and James and the conclusion is an out is an out.

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No, an out that is not a K can advance runners.
Great--ERA covers that
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No, an out that is not a K can advance runners.
You are correct. There are productive outs and unproductive outs. Anyone who can induce a strikeout like Sabathia is dominant. I never liked him as he always killed by Orioles (but then again, who hasn't) but he is a HOFer for sure.
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