Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

As always, Kyle, amazing “sleuthing.” I sincerely appreciate your efforts.....although I suspect you get a great deal of satisfaction out of it. I think we all enjoy solving our little mysteries.

As for the photo attachment....I think Net54 is one of the EASIEST sites when it comes to photos. For whatever reason, I am never plagued by the small and/or sideways pictures others experience. Are you on a real computer or your phone? I’ve had no problems with either, but 90% of the time I am using my desktop computer. Anything from 50 kb to <2 mb usually uploads to the same ~80 kb size. Plus, I like the “preview post” button to get a, duh, preview.

I sincerely appreciate anyone that cares about these little mysteries. I'm glad you two enjoy my answers.

Sooooooo, did we solve anything here? Anyone feel good about St. Louis Button Co.? Prior to last night, I knew nothing of them ... wasn't even sure they were in St. Louis, MO. Now, it's looking like a pretty good answer, to me anyway. I certainly can't come up with a better one; but, I'm certainly no Browns or Cards expert; and pinbacks are not my thing.

In my experience, many makers of pinbacks made other novelty items, including felt pennants. These were considered "complementary goods" and usually sold side by side. ASCO, WGN, and WinCraft all made both products for a period of time. So, it's completely logical to assume St. Louis Button Co. did, too. However, without a maker's mark from them on a felt pennant; or a vintage catalogue or advertisement referencing their felt pennants, we can only speculate.

Here's some more info on 20th century button manufacturers, including St. Louis Button Co., if you scroll down a bit:

https://www.buttonmuseum.org/button-manufacturers

There's a cool product catalogue displayed in the above piece from the company. I'm sure if they made pennants when it was printed, it would indicate so along with all the other novelty items they made....

As to my picture attachment woes ... I give up. I spend more time trying to attach a clear, legible image on my N54 posts than in research and writing. I think the files are too big, and it's either shrinking them or else not letting me attach them.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

I sincerely appreciate anyone that cares about these little mysteries. I'm glad you two enjoy my answers.

As to my picture attachment woes ... I give up. I spend more time trying to attach a clear, legible image on my N54 posts than in research and writing. I think the files are too big, and it's either shrinking them or else not letting me attach them.

Definitely appreciate the info Kyle. There was such little info available on pennants just a few years ago, but we're slowly chipping away at the mystery.

As for pics...I use imgbox.com and picresize.com and don't have any problems. It's sometimes a couple extra steps to get it right but nothing too labor intensive.

Edit to add: They're both free.

[Fballguy]

Thought Marc (Bocca) might be interested in this recent pick up. Has to be one of the earliest Niners pennants...definitely one of the rarest.

[perezfan]

Great pennant Rob! 3/4 size... right? Extremely rare...

Were the goalposts ever really like that? You see that depiction A LOT in period artwork, program covers, and even on many of the early '50s Bowman Cards. It's very consistent, but I'm guessing they took some "artistic license" in portraying them.

Hard to imagine why the crossbar would ever be placed that high up. Must've been lots tougher to tell if the kick was good or bad back then. I bet they blew quite a few calls.

OK, enough musing.... Back to pennants!

[Fballguy]

In the 1940s (this pennant is from 1946 or so) they didn't look like that. Here's a screenshot from a Rams/Eagles game in 1945. Relatively modern looking.



In the 1920s though they do kind of resemble the ones in the pennant.

[perezfan]

Thanks Rob-

Great photos! I guess it was in the early 1960s that they adapted to the taller and narrower goalposts. But I love that antiquated style!

[bocca001]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Thought Marc (Bocca) might be interested in this recent pick up. Has to be one of the earliest Niners pennants...definitely one of the rarest.

Rob- That is really, really nice. Did you pick that up from the 49er super collector with the massive pennant collection? Or did it come from elsewhere? I want to be hopeful about others existing.

And, Kyle, I also really appreciate your research. I like being able to find it on your blog, but I’d also be glad to find it all in a book some day.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Rob- That is really, really nice. Did you pick that up from the 49er super collector with the massive pennant collection? Or did it come from elsewhere? I want to be hopeful about others existing.

And, Kyle, I also really appreciate your research. I like being able to find it on your blog, but I’d also be glad to find it all in a book some day.

Thanks Marc...No it didn't come from him. It was in the recent Hunt auction along with a decent (but common) 60s Giants pennant, a moderately rare but faded as hell Yankees pennant and a bunch of other beat to sh*t 60's baseball and basketball pennants. The Niners was the outlier of the bunch. Not sure why Hunt bundled these.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Please come check out the pennants in my auction!









and a bunch more. Not earth-shattering stuff but some nice items. 1969 Expos, tons of 70's NBA, MLB, NFL and College.

http://www.birminghamauctioneers.com

[Fballguy]

Anyone have the slightest clue who these guys were? Google provides nothing helpful.