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Old 06-08-2019, 09:01 AM
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He is a successful guy, he is not going to lose his mind on a message board over a card. He knows he can get recourse.

The concern is his collection is full of these top grade cards, and he is a buyer at almost any price. Brent probably saw him as a mark. One thing to buy cards that were alterted, quite another to be coached into buying altered cards. How many altered Moser cards did Brent walk him into? It would be personal for me.

I feel for the guy, followed his posts in CU he seems like a solid guy that loves the hobby. I hope he shares, at some point, his thoughts on all of this. We need a heavy hitter to step up and shine some light on this.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:03 AM
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He is a successful guy, he is not going to lose his mind on a message board over a card. He knows he can get recourse.

The concern is his collection is full of these top grade cards, and he is a buyer at almost any price. Brent probably saw him as a mark. One thing to buy cards that were alterted, quite another to be coached into buying altered cards. How many altered Moser cards did Brent walk him into? It would be personal for me.

I feel for the guy, followed his posts in CU he seems like a solid guy that loves the hobby. I hope he shares, at some point, his thoughts on all of this. We need a heavy hitter to step up and shine some light on this.
He said, I think, that he also discussed how high to bid with Brent. Ugh.

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Old 06-08-2019, 09:15 AM
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Sure is easy to shill once you've told the auctioneer your max bid.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:29 AM
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All these cards that are altered. It's sickening.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:33 AM
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Bobby, you didn't get any PSA bulk submission cards from any Mary Goser, did you?
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:36 AM
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Bobby, you didn't get any PSA bulk submission cards from any Mary Goser, did you?
LOL....no.....not at all.....all my stuff is low grade, and the dollar amount appears to be stuff he is not interested in.
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bobby, you didn't get any psa bulk submission cards from any mary goser, did you?
lololololol
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:51 AM
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lololololol
I'm small potatoes. He appears to like bigger fish.
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A nightmare scenario for sure. This is where the card bubble may cool off or dare I say pop.
As much as I thought this news was isolated to a few social media outlets it has actually gained some good traction beyond the reaches of blowout and net54.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:16 AM
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Ya thats crazy, and in this case Brent walked him into a card he must know was altered. How many other Moser cards did Brent coach him to buy? How many other big buyers was Brent coaching? Playing these guys against eachother and making a fortune.

The whole thing is ridiculous.


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He said, I think, that he also discussed how high to bid with Brent. Ugh.

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He said, I think, that he also discussed how high to bid with Brent. Ugh.

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Hopefully he saved the emails or texts....
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