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Old 06-08-2019, 04:36 AM
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Was the card just less dirty, or were stains removed? Did the image lose clarity because of the soaking?
If it was one of those 1951 Bowmans with previous wax stains, I would say those were very likely chemically cleaned.
However, since you first tried to get made whole by PWCC, you should now go to PSA.
The card is a 1900 Cope's Golf Card of Old Tom Morris. The card was previously purchased by Gary Moser and was apparently in PSA 2 slab before I bought it in a PSA 4 slab.

There are before and after photos in posts 79 and 82 of the linked thread.

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Going from a 2 to a 4 wouldn't likely just be from light cleaning. I'm guessing there was also a crease pressed out. The before card wouldn't have gotten a 2 just from light staining, IMO.
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That card is altered.

A few hundred and they won't return it. Sad.

Betsy probably wrote that email from her 1.5 million dollar home.

ANY card Moser had his hands on should be eligible for a refund.

ANY card PWCC sold is suspect and should be eligible for a return.

Sorry this happened to you.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:28 AM
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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=105
Just this page alone from yesterday:
T206 Piedmont Nap Lajoie from PSA 2 to 4
1954 Bowman Mantle from PSA 4 to 6
1948 Leaf #1 Joe DiMaggio PSA 6 to PSA 7
1954 Topps Al Kaline RC #201 from PSA 6 to 7
1969 Topps Mickey Mantle #500 from BVG 5.5 to PSA 8
1933 Goudey #53 Babe Ruth BVG 2.5 to SGC 3
1952 Topps Look 'N See Babe Ruth #15 PSA 6 to 8
1914 Cracker Jack Ray Fisher #102 PSA 2 to 3
1914 Cracker Jack Josh Devore #47 PSA 1 to 3
1909 E95 Philadelphia Caramel Ty Cobb PSA 3 to 5
1914 Cracker Jack Nap Lajoie #66 PSA 2 to 2: still gained $664
1952 Bowman Stan Musial #196 PSA 9 to 10: Value gain of $25,300.03
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