I guess this is goodbye

[calvindog]

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

[Leon]

Would you rather have this site be totally anonymous?

Originally Posted by calvindog

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Leon

Would you rather have this site be totally anonymous?

Wouldn't you accomplish the same thing by keeping that info for yourself. Forcing people to literally have it public seems only to give others who could have ulterior motives, access to information on people they don't need or deserve. Everything would be exactly the same if our identities were only know by you.

[barrysloate]

Whether or not you remain anonymous on a chat board is a double edged sword. In some places, if you post an opinion on something controversial, such as politics or gun control, you are very likely to receive death threats from someone who disagrees with you. And this of course can be very upsetting. On the other hand, if you are allowed to post anonymously, you can pretty much say any crazy thing you want, with no consequences. If you have to put your identity out there, you are more likely to post in an intelligent matter. We tend to be more reasoned and careful with what we say with our names out in the open.

You won't get any death threats on Net54, although we did have one poster who used to wish people a painful death when they challenged him, so that was an exception. He has since passed away. I prefer having my name posted, and don't like when others are anonymous. I've had my share of arguments on the board, but I won't respond to any attacks if that person is anonymous.

Leon's rule is if you offer an opinion on a person or business that is negative, you need to have your name out. I agree with that completely, but I know not everyone else does.

[buymycards]

My thought has always been that if you don't have the balls to put your name by your post, then don't post it.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Whether or not you remain anonymous on a chat board is a double edged sword. In some places, if you post an opinion on something controversial, such as politics or gun control, you are very likely to receive death threats from someone who disagrees with you. And this of course can be very upsetting. On the other hand, if you are allowed to post anonymously, you can pretty much say any crazy thing you want, with no consequences. If you have to put your identity out there, you are more likely to post in an intelligent matter. We tend to be more reasoned and careful with what we say with our names out in the open.

You won't get any death threats on Net54, although we did have one poster who used to wish people a painful death when they challenged him, so that was an exception. He has since passed away. I prefer having my name posted, and don't like when others are anonymous. I've had my share of arguments on the board, but I won't respond to any attacks if that person is anonymous.

Leon's rule is if you offer an opinion on a person or business that is negative, you need to have your name out. I agree with that completely, but I know not everyone else does.

Yes. The Brucii. I will say no more because I have previously made my feelings about him well known. I also agree that you need to take personal responsibility for your posts if you are posting on a controversial topic or being negative. IMO, that is only fair. If you don't want to play, don't post. Pretty simple.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

Yes. The Brucii. I will say no more because I have previously made my feelings about him well known. I also agree that you need to take personal responsibility for your posts if you are posting on a controversial topic or being negative. IMO, that is only fair. If you don't want to play, don't post. Pretty simple.

They were a strange, complex man. I never personally experienced his venom -- quite to the contrary actually -- but what I saw was quite horrible.

And yet again I agree with Kenny, people should own their posts. It's baseball cards, not some whistleblower forum where one needs cover.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They were a strange, complex man. I never personally experienced his venom -- quite to the contrary actually -- but what I saw was quite horrible.

And yet again I agree with Kenny, people should own their posts. It's baseball cards, not some whistleblower forum where one needs cover.

I did. And others did too. As I understand it, there was some degree of dichotomy there because he wasn't that way in person. At least that's what Barry said at the time. Don't know, don't care. The stuff he said about what he hoped would happen to my wife and family still makes me furious. I will not post about what I said about him at the time because I already did that then and it doesn't matter now, but I will say that I was not sorry, nor was I regretful, when he passed. That is the understatement of the year and that's too bad. I wish I could feel otherwise but I don't.

On another note,, this situation with Peter agreeing with me MORE THAN ONCE lately is really causing me some concern. In 20 years we probably haven't agreed more than 5 times and now this all of a sudden? I may need to reevaluate my thoughts.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Whether or not you remain anonymous on a chat board is a double edged sword. In some places, if you post an opinion on something controversial, such as politics or gun control, you are very likely to receive death threats from someone who disagrees with you. And this of course can be very upsetting. On the other hand, if you are allowed to post anonymously, you can pretty much say any crazy thing you want, with no consequences. If you have to put your identity out there, you are more likely to post in an intelligent matter. We tend to be more reasoned and careful with what we say with our names out in the open.

You won't get any death threats on Net54, although we did have one poster who used to wish people a painful death when they challenged him, so that was an exception. He has since passed away. I prefer having my name posted, and don't like when others are anonymous. I've had my share of arguments on the board, but I won't respond to any attacks if that person is anonymous.

Leon's rule is if you offer an opinion on a person or business that is negative, you need to have your name out. I agree with that completely, but I know not everyone else does.

And, to be totally honest, when I joined, I'd read some oldcardboard emails for a couple years. Finally decided to check out the board, and was happy to see a few names I remembered from years ago. (I'm pretty low key in real life until I know people, and only used to get to a couple shows a year. )

Barry was one of the ones I recognized, and I figured if he was here the place might just be ok.
(Full disclosure, I never bought anything from Barry, just read the ads and wanted pretty much every card in them... )

If everyone was anonymous, I might never have joined.

Now don't go giving Barry a hard time over that!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

Never had my life destroyed. Have had my eBay account screwed with, got my share of racist, homophobic, profanity filled PMs/emails. I also know a scum bag sellers lawyer. That was just from fellow forum members.

I still like the name rule even if it has been used by the scum to intimidate the good guy(s) calling them out.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Never had my life destroyed. Have had my eBay account screwed with, got my share of racist, homophobic, profanity filled PMs/emails. I also know a scum bag sellers lawyer. That was just from fellow forum members.

I still like the name rule even if it has been used by the scum to intimidate the good guy(s) calling them out.

I am sorry to hear about those PMs and emails. There is no excuse at all for that.