Halper Collection questions

[midmo]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I, personally, would pay a small premium for provenance, but that’s me. I think most people don’t care.

From what I understand so many of his memorabilia pieces had questionable authenticity so I'm not sure that provenance proves anything. I don't know. It's hard to trust anything.

[ruth-gehrig]

Perhaps I am mistaken but I believe the authenticity questions arise from so called game used jerseys and memorabilia Halper claimed to have gotten from players or their family. I don't remember hearing anything specific about general "memorabilia" that wasnt somehow attached to a player.

[perezfan]

Yes, it was a few of the game-used items that were proven to be fakes. Some were very high end, such as a Joe Jackson Jersey... a rather high profile item.

The vast majority of items in the auction were legit, but the bad uniforms in question were so broadly publicized that to many, it tainted the entire collection. I believe there was an issue with Ty Cobb's dentures as well (you can't make this stuff up). But in reality, most of the general memorabilia was fine, and about 90 - 95% of the game-used lots were as advertised.

[1880nonsports]

with whom to trade my signed Halper auction catalog. As for the percentages of real versus fake "stuff" I've heard 38% of all statistics are off. In the art world (stamps too and maybe others) there are collectors that collect "fakes". They do that knowingly. I think Barry got taken more than most due to his overwhelming need to acquire so much actually unattainable memorabilia.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

with whom to trade my signed Halper auction catalog. As for the percentages of real versus fake "stuff" I've heard 38% of all statistics are off. In the art world (stamps too and maybe others) there are collectors that collect "fakes". They do that knowingly. I think Barry got taken more than most due to his overwhelming need to acquire so much actually unattainable memorabilia.

If I recall the stories that circulated at the time, Halper was not 100% honest about his collection. It was said that he claimed that he acquired several important pieces from athletes in person in the 1950's, but these items turned out to have been produced many years later. It's too bad that he can't speak for himself to clear up the issues.

[rdwyer]

1884 Lawson's Card game set pictures. There are 9 striker cards and 5 Wild Throw cards making the set complete at 36 plus Value of cards card.