What Brent Huigens' mindset TRULY is during this scandal

[T_Hamilton]

Sh!t happens right? It happens to everyone... but people make it right. PWCC hasn't. For those of you who have kids, think about the lessons here.

If PWCC refunded me, i would have no problem. If PWCC communicated with me AND proved that the card was not submitted by Moser and was unaltered, I would have no problem.

But the lies have added up... Huigens' word holds zero water. He is obviously in survival mode as his business is probably losing money by the minute and he is treading water to stay afloat.

Its time for us to band together, and fight the system or our hobby will be tarnished forever.

[sportscardtheory]

I love how he states "no signs of alteration" when this entire scandal involves cards that were deemed by PSA and BGS to have no signs of alteration. What is he even saying here. He can tell by looking at the card (so he knows better than PSA and/or BGS?), or that he knows Moser or someone else never altered it?

[Exhibitman]

If you are within the eBay return time frame, send it back under that program. As for Brent's response



Mr. Chow's hand is getting tired dealing with all of the BS from PWCC and PSA.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Mr. Chow's hand is getting tired dealing with all of the BS from PWCC and PSA.

Mr Chow's hand does not get tired.

[T_Hamilton]

He obviously thought his response would make me go away...

it will not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

He obviously thought his response would make me go away...

it will not.

It's hard to know what he is thinking at this point, in my opinion. Obviously the better course for him would have been just to take it back, or even if he said no, not to go on with that rant about slander.

[T_Hamilton]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's hard to know what he is thinking at this point, in my opinion. Obviously the better course for him would have been just to take it back, or even if he said no, not to go on with that rant about slander.

Desperate people do desperate things. He is getting desperate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

Desperate people do desperate things. He is getting desperate.

According to Kevin Mize he is laughing all the way to the bank. Kevin may want to rethink this.

[CuriousGeorge]

I think Brent has had a few days to let everything that has happened sink in and is now trying to salvage his business and reputation. Time will tell if it works.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I think Brent has had a few days to let everything that has happened sink in and is now trying to salvage his business and reputation. Time will tell if it works.

In that regard, he may be his own worst enemy.

[perezfan]

That's great news! Ebay forced his hand, just as we surmised.

Mr. Chow will need to switch to the left hand pretty soon. This corruption ain't going away anytime soon, and that right hand will develop carpal tunnel syndrome before long

[T_Hamilton]

As someone who has been pretty pissed off with this whole situation, I also wanted to keep the group informed...

I submitted a request to ebay and PayPal about an hour ago. PWCC responded right away with this message via ebay:

"Thank you for your participation in our auction and we understand your concerns and we are committed to address any and all issues like this. Please rest assured that for the vast majority of professionally graded items the cards are properly graded and their authenticity is not in question. If you have evidence that a card was altered, we will happily send it in to the grading company for their review and if there is a problem with the item you are entitled to a full refund through our Marketplace Guarantee. If you reach out to our customer service team at their email cs@pwccmarketplace.com we can begin the process for you. Thank you for your understanding."

Then within 30 minutes of receiving that message, I got this message (which would have saved us all a lot of time and pounding on our keyboards):

"Good news! Your return request is approved. The seller will provide you with a return shipping label to send the item back."

I hope we can get this hobby back to a place where it is fun... where we all have the feeling of ripping open packs as kids... and can move away from those trying to take advantage of the hobby and ruin beautiful artifacts of the past.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

As someone who has been pretty pissed off with this whole situation, I also wanted to keep the group informed...

I submitted a request to ebay and PayPal about an hour ago. PWCC responded right away with this message via ebay:

"Thank you for your participation in our auction and we understand your concerns and we are committed to address any and all issues like this. Please rest assured that for the vast majority of professionally graded items the cards are properly graded and their authenticity is not in question. If you have evidence that a card was altered, we will happily send it in to the grading company for their review and if there is a problem with the item you are entitled to a full refund through our Marketplace Guarantee. If you reach out to our customer service team at their email cs@pwccmarketplace.com we can begin the process for you. Thank you for your understanding."

Then within 30 minutes of receiving that message, I got this message (which would have saved us all a lot of time and pounding on our keyboards):

"Good news! Your return request is approved. The seller will provide you with a return shipping label to send the item back."

I hope we can get this hobby back to a place where it is fun... where we all have the feeling of ripping open packs as kids... and can move away from those trying to take advantage of the hobby and ruin beautiful artifacts of the past.

Way to go!

It will be fun again for me when Brenty Mcnumbnuts is behind bars and not 1 minute before. he will just flip it again for more$$$ but who cares. All PWCC cards are tainted much like Barry Halper's collection. one fake, all fake.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

I love how he states "no signs of alteration" when this entire scandal involves cards that were deemed by PSA and BGS to have no signs of alteration. What is he even saying here. He can tell by looking at the card (so he knows better than PSA and/or BGS?), or that he knows Moser or someone else never altered it?

Or worse, he thinks other cards DO show signs of alteration but he still sold them?

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Or worse, he thinks other cards DO show signs of alteration but he still sold them?

Exactly! He knows THIS one wasn't, but the ones that have been proven to be, he didn't know were? Just goes to show he's either lying or he's a useless idiot.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

Exactly! He knows THIS one wasn't, but the ones that have been proven to be, he didn't know were? Just goes to show he's either lying or he's a useless idiot.

Why do we have to choose?

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Why do we have to choose?

Do you have to?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

Do you have to?

You were the one who said either or.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by t_hamilton

sh!t happens right? It happens to everyone... But people make it right. Pwcc hasn't. For those of you who have kids, think about the lessons here.

If pwcc refunded me, i would have no problem. If pwcc communicated with me and proved that the card was not submitted by moser and was unaltered, i would have no problem.

But the lies have added up... Huigens' word holds zero water. He is obviously in survival mode as his business is probably losing money by the minute and he is treading water to stay afloat.

Its time for us to band together, and fight the system or our hobby will be tarnished forever.

yup!