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Old 06-05-2019, 12:54 PM
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This card was previously sold by Mile High in an SGC holder, unless I am confused, so remind me why you think it's a Moser card?
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:03 PM
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This card was previously sold by Mile High in an SGC holder, unless I am confused, so remind me why you think it's a Moser card?
I have no idea if it is or isn't, but what does that even matter. Confidence that it's not is essentially nonexistent. Everything they sell is suspect if you have no certainty of it's origin. They destroyed their consumer confidence. To me, everything they sell is altered at this point. Not literally, but you get my drift.

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Old 06-05-2019, 01:09 PM
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I have no idea if it is or isn't, but what does that even matter. Confidence that it's not is essentially nonexistent. Everything they sell is suspect if you have no certainty of it's origin. They destroyed their consumer confidence. To me, everything they sell is altered at this point. Not literally, but you get my drift.
It looks fine to me, t's only a scan I know but it sure looks like a pure crossover. I am the last person on this planet to defend Brent, but he shouldn't be obligated to refund for a card if in fact it is not altered.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:11 PM
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It looks fine to me, t's only a scan I know but it sure looks like a pure crossover. I am the last person on this planet to defend Brent, but he shouldn't be obligated to refund for a card if in fact it is not altered.
Yeah, and he can just send it in to PSA for a regrade if he's uncertain. lol Yikes.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:15 PM
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Yeah, and he can just send it in to PSA for a regrade if he's uncertain. lol Yikes.
He can also sell it. Yes the uncertainty sucks I am with you there. Or he could send to SGC. They have a crossover special apparently.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:22 PM
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He can also sell it. Yes the uncertainty sucks I am with you there. Or he could send to SGC. They have a crossover special apparently.
This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:30 PM
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This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.
Why do you think it's altered? And if you love the card why not ask SGC before you return it?
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This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.
Brent is going to resell it anyhow, so it is still someone else's problem.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:36 PM
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This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.
And also, what if SGC says its trimmed or altered. Then what. You're stuck with a card possibly worth about a quarter of it's graded value/what you paid.

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The fact I am having to spend time away from work, my family and other joys of life to deal with this slime ball enrage me. I have started the return process through eBay and PayPal. I would have been PWCC's biggest proponent if they ponied up and did the right thing. Instead they are driven by greed. There is no place for this in the hobby, let alone the world.

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Old 06-05-2019, 01:19 PM
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The fact I am having to spend time away from work, my family and other joys of life to deal with this slime ball enrage me. I have started the return process through eBay and PayPal. I would have been PWCC's biggest proponent if they ponied up and did the right thing. Instead they are driven by greed. There is no place for this in the hobby, let alone the world.

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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...highlight=t227
Yes, I posted elsewhere about the undue stress this is causing many of us. Awful.
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