Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Understood. My statement wasn't really about the doctors, but about the doctored cards. They're easy to verify because there are before and after photos. I was just pondering how many exist that we'll never know about because the cards were purchased at a shop or show or other private sale, were doctored, but we'll never know about because there were no before photos for comparison.

After PSA cleans house and gets rid of the employees that were involved, dont you think they should offer some kind of service to their customers like a FREE evaluation? For what it's worth I think Sloan is a piece of crap for not addressing this.

If law enforcement gets involved I assume that Moser and others would verify that ALL of their submissions from the last x years are cards they worked on, like that 950 card submission shown earlier. Once that gets out then the PSA guarantee would be for ALL those cards and would get removed from the Registry.

[Bored5000]

This just sucks for the hobby, because it is not just a few cards or a few dozen cards; there are already thousands of cards involved and in holders, never to be removed as they get passed from buyer to buyer.

I am floored by how many sub $100 cards are involved with this.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Once that gets out then the PSA guarantee would be for ALL those cards and would get removed from the Registry.

You and I are on the same page. I still also suggest a front page article in the SMR Magazine.

[Bram99]

The title of this thread is about other card physicians practicing alteration or conservation or whatever you want to call it. Is there a handy list of the names, ebay accounts, etc for those who have not read the 1000's of notes on this between net54 and BO this weekend?

Tony

[swarmee]

Other known card doctors getting cards past the Third Party Grading services and listing through PWCC, Probstein, etc. to cover their tracks:

Bill Sliheet - SSIGuy (Superior Sports Investments)
Samir Sliheet - Superior Sports Investments
Nate Nichols - affiliated with the Dallas area BGS trimmers
Will Jaimet - Heroes of Sport, submitter to PWCC
Gary Moser - eBay whitman111 vintage cards dating back to 1880s consigned to PWCC after grading by PSA
Eric Bitz - Buynicecards
Brian Deer- isellurcards (formerly Bristol Collectibles)
Kevin Burge- longtime modern card dealer
Robert Block - longtime trimmer of cards to BGS, submitted to PWCC
Brent Huigens - owner of PWCC, co-conspirator with many of these guys
Dick Towle - owner of Gone With The Stain
Steve Tormollan
Circumstantial Evidence: BGS giving preferential grades to WJCII (Joe Clemons), former employee "BLACK LABELGATE" 60+ page thread on Blowout.
Circumstantial Evidence: Gabriel Seraf replacing boring patches with SICK MOJO PATCHES

[swarmee]

This one's pretty crazy too:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1251740

Breaker can't send packages from home in Texas because daughter is in hospital


Except scammer stole picture from internet article from Australia:

[Leon]

Nate is still on our board. He has not been found to be trimming cards but WAS using a card trimmers account to get better pricing. I am told he doesn't use that account any longer. Besides Brent, I don't think any others on that list are on this forum.

[swarmee]

Did you revoke Brent's account? He is on my list as well.

[Leon]

No. And I am also not doing other things you said I should do too.

Originally Posted by swarmee

Did you revoke Brent's account? He is on my list as well.

[swarmee]

Edit: misread your post. You did point out Brent still has posting priveleges.

I have asked Blowout to ban him, but it hasn't happened yet. Why he went back there, I have no idea.

Nate is still out recruiting submissions for BGS. And supposedly getting very good business.