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[ullmandds]

But again...to me this is no different than being caught with a stock the day they offer catastrophic news and you see your investment go to shit! It's happened to me. How is this that different?

[Exhibitman]

Seems to me that if they could produce undetectable fake cards they could also produce undetectable fake flips...

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

But again...to me this is no different than being caught with a stock the day they offer catastrophic news and you see your investment go to shit! It's happened to me. How is this that different?

If collecting stocks is for you a hobby then it is exactly the same. For me cards are more hobby than investment. I am not blind to the value and I like when the value of a card I bought increases in value. But I collect and keep cards because I enjoy them not just because of their value. Not judging but some people only collect for the investment aspect. For that group of people this PSA / PWCC scandal will be the most painful.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by Bram99

If collecting stocks is for you a hobby then it is exactly the same. For me cards are more hobby than investment. I am not blind to the value and I like when the value of a card I bought increases in value. But I collect and keep cards because I enjoy them not just because of their value. Not judging but some people only collect for the investment aspect. For that group of people this PSA / PWCC scandal will be the most painful.

And will be great for the people that are in it only for the enjoyment of the hobby itself if the sky falls and prices on everything plummet.
As I posted elsewhere, we can blame everyone else all we want, but at the end of the day we only have ourselves to blame. It's our greed and vanity that have perpetuated this entire situation.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bram99

If collecting stocks is for you a hobby then it is exactly the same. For me cards are more hobby than investment. I am not blind to the value and I like when the value of a card I bought increases in value. But I collect and keep cards because I enjoy them not just because of their value. Not judging but some people only collect for the investment aspect. For that group of people this PSA / PWCC scandal will be the most painful.

There is nothing wrong with "collecting" for only the investment aspect, but it has been obvious from that first (mis)graded Wagner that the entire house was built in an earthquake zone...