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Old 06-01-2019, 09:14 PM
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Brent just needs to post another "calming" video for his investors on youtube. Problem solved. Where's Martin?
PaulMaul is doing a pretty good impression:
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ned-by-pwcc/p4
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:17 PM
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Must suck to be censored.
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:51 PM
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Apparently, the CGC labeling of comic books includes calling 'conserved' comic as unaltered. This conservation includes pressing and removing of binding and coloring!

This is 100% what baseball card collectors don't want and are against. If a card has been conserved or restored fine, but the baseball card wants and insists the work be designated on the label-- and the card can't get a numerical grade.

Now I know why PWCC, and Goudey, want the baseball card hobby to adopt that labeling system. The CGC labeling system doesn't label what the baseball card hobby consider alterations.

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Old 06-02-2019, 05:20 AM
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Sent this to the FDLE tipline this morning

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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1295881

There is a very large scandal going on in the baseball card community with high level scammers taking advantage of the grading companies and scamming people for millions. One of these is Robert Block, who altered cards to make them look better, passed them through the certifying company Beckett Grading Service, and then sold them through Pre-War Card Collector (PWCC) on eBay. Since Block lives in Florida, the authorities here should be contacted.

Here is more information about the scams; the FBI should be brought in as well:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290614

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1293713

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1296184

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1288383

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297351

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1292005

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1296884

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...light=superior

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...light=superior

My father was the Bureau Chief of the Fort Myers branch of FDLE for 20 years until he died five years ago. I would like to see this investigated and passed to the proper authorities in each district and federal.
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Old 06-02-2019, 05:50 AM
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I'm totally sickened by all this. In my opinion, there is a big difference between removing wax stains with panythose and trimming cards and adding color. Disgusting.
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Old 06-02-2019, 05:53 AM
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All laid out on a silver platter. If you live in Texas, report the BGS/SSI stuff. If you live in Oregon, report the PWCC stuff, if you live in New York, report PWCC for taking away state sales tax from their Vault promotions.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:37 PM
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[QUOTE=bobbyw8469;1883650]I'm totally sickened by all this. In my opinion, there is a big difference between removing wax stains with pantyhose and trimming cards and adding color. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]

If one chooses to remove wax or add color wearing panty hose that's their right!

As long as they do it in their own home I guess....

Sorry, couldn't resist!
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Old 06-02-2019, 03:26 PM
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Rarely post but have done business with many of you. After years of being a fraud examiner; I know a couple things to be true: If there is something nefarious going on 1) someone who feels they didn’t get a big enough cut or 2) has a big mouth with too much to drink will always talk. It only takes 1 to unravel it all....I would surmise that day is coming.
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:13 AM
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That is great, I seriously appreciate all that is going on to expose the scammers.

IMHO nobody is taking advantage of the grading companies. They are either in on it or they hire blind graders.
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