Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...2&postcount=74

Check your cert numbers.

Lucked out again. Whew. HUUUUUUGE list. Keep in mind all of these are not necessarily bad, just in same subs as ones that have been identified.

If you have bought expensive cards from PWCC you really need to review this list if you care.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Lucked out again. Whew. HUUUUUUGE list. Keep in mind all of these are not necessarily bad, just in same subs as ones that have been identified.

If you have bought expensive cards from PWCC you really need to review this list if you care.

I believe that should read. If you bought cards from PWCC.

[Kenny Cole]

Yeah. I lucked out too. WOW.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

Yeah. I lucked out too. WOW.

Virtual high five.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Lucked out again. Whew. HUUUUUUGE list. Keep in mind all of these are not necessarily bad, just in same subs as ones that have been identified.

If you have bought expensive cards from PWCC you really need to review this list if you care.

Oh, ****. I have a card on that list. It is an expensive card to me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

mispost

[Peter_Spaeth]

Same card?

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Same card?

Looks like another match.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Looks like another match.

The patch in the right border looked the same but I am no forensic expert.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The patch in the right border looked the same but I am no forensic expert.

I see what you are referring to now. I am not a VCP member right now (I have been a member in 30-day increments in the past). Could you tell me what that card sold for as a PSA 2 and when was that?

[bounce]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The patch in the right border looked the same but I am no forensic expert.

The PSA 2 was sold to w***1 - that's the Moser code

Sorry to say it, but I think it's a match. The right border is one of a couple things I see that makes me believe it's the same card.

HOWEVER - I don't think it's been trimmed. The corners are still rounded, borders don't seem any shorter to me. I do think it's been cleaned, but possible that's all.

If it were me, I'd keep this one.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Same card?

I honestly don't know? My Old Tom has two visible spots to the right of his head. The card you showed don't seem to have them, but I admit that I suck at being able to spot the stuff that the investigators over on Blowout can find.

Edit: I see another poster had agreed with you. You may indeed be correct.

[Bored5000]

Even before I pulled out my card to look at the cert. number, my heart sank as soon as a I saw Old Tom Morris's name listed. I "knew" the cert numbers were going to match.

I paid $757 for that card. It is the second most expensive card I own. Most of my cards are in the $300-500 range.

Nearly my entire collection are non-sports cards or cards outside the big four sports. I wasn't naive enough to think that fraud only occurs in five- or six-figure cards or big four sports cards. But it does suck that even relatively inexpensive cards outside the mainstream were targeted.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Even before I pulled out my card to look at the cert. number, my heart sank as soon as a I saw Old Tom Morris's name listed. I "knew" the cert numbers were going to match.

I paid $757 for that card. It is the second most expensive card I own. Most of my cards are in the $300-500 range.

Nearly my entire collection are non-sports cards or cards outside the big four sports. I wasn't naive enough to think that fraud only occurs in five- or six-figure cards or big four sports cards. But it does suck that even relatively inexpensive cards outside the mainstream were targeted.

Demand a return and when he refuses, post it here.

[Peter_Spaeth]

More cards in the same sub as the PSA 10 52 Musial. Check yours if you dare.

28639435 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson 4 7323.23
28639436 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson 6
28639437 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson 6 8400
28639438 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson 6
28639439 x
28639440 1951 Bowman Larry Doby 8.5 515.5
28639441 x
28639442 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle 7 23925
28639443 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle 6.5
28639444 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle 7
28639445 x
28639446 1952 Bowman Stan Musial 10 28100.03
28639447 x
28639448 1952 Topps Al Rosen 7 1009.99
28639449 1952 Topps Bob Elliott 9 1136.11
28639450 1952 Topps Merrill Combs 7
28639451 x
28639452 1952 Topps Dizzy Trout 8 1388
28639453 1952 Topps Ken Raffensberger 8 154.5
28639454 1952 Topps Bob Miller 8.5 1182.87
28639455 x
28639456 1952 Topps Myron Ginsberg 8.5 1397.54
28639457 1952 Topps Joe Garagiola 7
28639458 1952 Topps Joe Garagiola 8.5 787
28639459 1952 Topps Frank Shea 7.5
28639460 1952 Topps Willie Mays 7
28639461 1952 Topps Willard Nixon 5
28639462 1952 Topps Chet Nichols 7
28639463 1952 Topps Gil Coan 8 249.01
28639464 1952 Topps Sibby Sisti 5
28639465 1952 Topps Jim Busby 9 2025
28639466 1952 Topps George Metkovich 8 1005
28639467 1952 Topps Hal Gregg 5
28639468 1952 Topps Karl Drews 8 617
28639469 x
28639470 1952 Topps Herman Franks 8.5 926.76
28639471 1952 Topps Jake Pitler 8 710
28639472 1953 Topps Mickey Mantle 6 5213
28639473 1953 Topps Mickey Mantle 6 5111
28639474 x
28639475 1954 Topps Al Kaline 7 1355.99
28639476 1954 Topps Al Kaline 7
28639477 1954 Topps Willie Mays 7 867.99
28639478 1954 Topps Willie Mays 8 3150
28639479 1954 Topps Willie Mays 8.5 4425.75
28639480 x
28639481 1955 Topps Duke Snider 8 2820
28639482 x
28639483 1957 Topps Duke Snider 8
28639484 1957 Topps Pee Wee Reese 8.5
28639485 1957 Topps Ted Williams 7
28639486 1957 Topps Ed Matthews 8
28639487 1957 Topps Ed Matthews 9
28639488 x
28639489 x
28639490 1960 Topps Bob Clemente 7.5
28639491 1960 Topps Mickey Mantle 7
28639492 1965 Topps Mickey Mantle 9 15,099.99
28639493 x
28639494 1965 Topps Steve Carlton 9 1391
28639495 1978 Topps Eddie Murray 9
28639496 1952 Bowman Large Don Paul 9 2075
28639497 1952 Bowman Large Ollie Matson 7.5 4049
28639498 1955 Bowman Doak Walker 9 1025
28639499 1957 Topps John Unitas 5.5
28639500 1957 Topps John Unitas 6
28639501 1957 Topps John Unitas 7
28639502 1958 Topps John Unitas 7
28639503 1948 Bowman George McAfee 9 1750
28639504 x
28639505 x
28639506 1957 Topps Footbal Checklist 1-154 Twin Blony 6.5 3706.23
28639507 1961 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain 7
28639508 1957 Topps Larry Costello 7
28639509 1957 Topps Bill Russell 7.5
28639510 1957 Topps Bob Cousey 7 1332.07
28639511 1957 Topps Bill Russell 7 14877
TOTAL: 149101.56
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[Rhotchkiss]

Three 51 Mantles. Stone cold.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Every time you see another outed card, a whole sub is underneath it. Keep that in mind when people try to spin this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bumping this. If people care, I would encourage you to check your cards against this list and keep in mind new certs are being outed every day, meaning the underlying subs including those certs are at least in doubt. Unless and until we get comprehensive lists from PWCC or PSA, people are going to have to do their own diligence, if it matters to them. If it seems overwhelming, limit the focus to significant cards purchased from PWCC.

[mattbojo]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Lucked out again. Whew. HUUUUUUGE list. Keep in mind all of these are not necessarily bad, just in same subs as ones that have been identified.

If you have bought expensive cards from PWCC you really need to review this list if you care.

A card from this list is currently up for auction on ebay by PWCC:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...8&LH_Auction=1


Anybody able to find a back scan of this card?: I found it, just had to click the right arrow

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...ed-background/


Matt Bojorquez