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Old 05-31-2019, 11:18 AM
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Return a card to PWCC and now your banned.

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Old 05-31-2019, 11:23 AM
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Well, by banning him, PWCC did him a gigantic favor. Gee, PSA overlooked an obvious wrinkle.... shocker!
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:24 AM
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Well, by banning him, PWCC did him a gigantic favor. Gee, PSA overlooked an obvious wrinkle.... shocker!
Totally agree! Huge favor.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:28 AM
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I-N-S-A-N-e!!

Like the child in the neighborhood if you don’t play by their rules they don’t play! Pathetic!

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Old 05-31-2019, 11:42 AM
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To write a glowing textual review and not mention the quasi-refractor line going through the entire card is definitely cause for return.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:50 AM
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That "line" is so noticeable once you see. I imagine there might be a line out the door of folks looking to return cards and Brent & Betsty are probably on tilt with no one to blame but themselves.
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You can fool some of the people some of the time..
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It is not in PWCC's best interest to deal with people who inspect their purchases.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:59 AM
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I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
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I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
Probably pretty good. This is on a few baseball card forums but what percentage of collectors are on forums or even know this is happening or even care.

I have friends from the 90's that are still very active in the hobby and had no idea that the Mastro thing happened.
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Probably pretty good. This is on a few baseball card forums but what percentage of collectors are on forums or even know this is happening or even care.



I have friends from the 90's that are still very active in the hobby and had no idea that the Mastro thing happened.
^^^This^^^ I have a couple of friends who have absolutely zero knowledge of Net54, Blowout, Mastro, etc. When I see them and we discuss cards, I have brought all of this up. They look at me like I am exaggerating or speaking a foreign language. I am afraid most collectors are just like them...I was the same way before I found Net54 a few years ago...just quietly collecting cards and enjoying their collections without a care in the world.

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^^^This^^^ I have a couple of friends who have absolutely zero knowledge of Net54, Blowout, Mastro, etc. When I see them and we discuss cards, I have brought all of this up. They look at me like I am exaggerating or speaking a foreign language. I am afraid most collectors are just like them...I was the same way before I found Net54 a few years ago...just quietly collecting cards and enjoying their collections without a care in the world.

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This story isn't a "Me Too" story like the ones in the news. But I agree with the poster above. I just spoke to two friends who are frequent and active buyers of 1940's and 1950's PSA cards for their several registry sets. While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.

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What do you think of the picture in this listing?

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:58 AM
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While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.
Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
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It's official. I've spent way too much time this weekend trying to sift through and keep up with these threads. Helllllpppp!
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I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
I would say it's hanging on by a thread.
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
I have no idea but if you started counting out loud at 1 it might take some time to get to that number.
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
Just read some of the descriptions of the relisted cards with enhanced grades.
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Just read some of the descriptions of the relisted cards with enhanced grades.
It's one level of disingenuousness to describe them that way; quite another to tell someone one on one to buy them.

Not far back someone here posted about a 52 Musial and as I recall mentioned how he reviewed all his purchases with Brent before bidding, I hope for that guy's sake he didn't get burned.
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