Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Does PSA remove the pre-altered grade from their pop report when they add the grade of the altered version of the same card?

Pop Report enthusiasts should consider this when touting their pops.

I have put that request already in my wish list to Steve Sloan. There are some set registry ne'er-do-wells that probably still have them in their sets.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I have put that request already in my wish list to Steve Sloan. There are some set registry ne'er-do-wells that probably still have them in their sets.

So when is Sloan going to address this...publically?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I have put that request already in my wish list to Steve Sloan. There are some set registry ne'er-do-wells that probably still have them in their sets.

Some?

Probably?

Hahahaha!

This thread is cheaper than drinking in a comedy club, with more punch lines.


And the people who get paid for their opinions are laughing all the way to the bank...

[T206Collector]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2361

[The Nasty Nati]

This guy can really recolor like a pro. Baffled PSA is missing these and so many more recolored ones found on Blowout.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2361

Sadly, I would have been happy with that SGC 30 as it was...

[T206Collector]

I think he’s adding a light gloss to the cards after he recolors, so it doesn’t look like the surface is being touched. He gets “under” the patina that way.

[HRBAKER]

The hits just keep on coming.
Great work over there on BO.

We're gonna need a bigger boat,.........err, Conservatory.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

This is all enough to make me want to exclusively go the beat up ball card route or return to picking up vintage photos that I like (mainly from RMY) and steer clear from this nonsense.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

This is all enough to make me want to exclusively go the beat up ball card route or return to picking up vintage photos that I like (mainly from RMY) and steer clear from this nonsense.

Robert - DON’T stop collecting!


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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I think he’s adding a light gloss to the cards after he recolors, so it doesn’t look like the surface is being touched. He gets “under” the patina that way.

That makes perfect sense, but it should still fail a blacklight test. Why aren't these high dollar cards being examined under a blacklight? Is an extra 30 seconds in the review process really that much extra effort, especially on high dollar cards?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That makes perfect sense, but it should still fail a blacklight test. Why aren't these high dollar cards being examined under a blacklight? Is an extra 30 seconds in the review process really that much extra effort, especially on high dollar cards?

I am told he may be using a type of paint or ink hat doesn't show up?

[Bigdaddy]

For a computer based vision system with machine learning capability, the detection of alterations to cards, whether trimmed edges, recoloring or other alterations, should be easy to detect.

This is a grad student project to put together the system and to 'teach' it with known examples of altered and unaltered cards. You could also give the system rules for grading the cards. No human operator needed (or desired).

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That makes perfect sense, but it should still fail a blacklight test. Why aren't these high dollar cards being examined under a blacklight? Is an extra 30 seconds in the review process really that much extra effort, especially on high dollar cards?

You’re absolutely right:

https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2017/...uthentication/

[steve B]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That makes perfect sense, but it should still fail a blacklight test. Why aren't these high dollar cards being examined under a blacklight? Is an extra 30 seconds in the review process really that much extra effort, especially on high dollar cards?

If there's some glosscoat (Or matte clear ) It may block UV. Similarly, not every modern paint/ink will react to UV, so the blacklight won't help as much as it's believed to.

But that's also no reason to not use one. as they can expose a whole laundry list of sins.