Just throw this one on the continuing pile...

[bounce]

Originally Posted by wondo

Art Thoms played in Oakland which is on the same coast as Oregon (home of You know who). He then played one year in Philadelphia which we all know had a huge mob presence in the 70s. Plus, he shares the first name with Art Schlichter. There ya have it.

I appreciate the exposure and unraveling of fraudulent activity which is rampant and well documented. Getting tired of the pot shots based on nothing but the desire to seem relevant. It dilutes the actual issues and takes away from this board.

And, yes, I’ve had a few beers ......

Then you should get educated. This isn’t a pot shot, it’s a fact.

That Jordan is not authentic, go compare it to any UDA Jordan.

In fact, why not trust the experts and do a Quick Opinion on it? Why didn’t PWCC do that at a minimum? I wonder...

I don’t need to desire to be relevant. My ego doesn’t require the attention. What I do desire is for forgeries to stop being pitched out into the market by uneducated or unethical sellers into the hands of uneducated buyers. This isn’t the first time they’ve listed bogus autographs with some bogus certificate. I am also sick of “position” giving people a free pass to just cash their consignment fee check with no repercussions.

Why would they sell probably THE MOST FORGED SIGNATURE IN THE MARKET without a recognized COA with it? Is it maybe because none of those companies will cert it?

There is absolutely ZERO CHANCE PSA or JSA would pass this signature as authentic, including if Michael himself walked it into their office.

And for those who don’t think you can just print up a cert that looks like that, do you really not see the blank line that just gets filled in with whatever the item is going to be? Seriously? That’s probably warning sign #1 in the hobby of a bogus signature, assuming you know absolutely nothing about autographs at all.

And finally, in person autographs from Jordan are WAAAAAAAAY SLOPPIER than the UDA signatures, and yet this one has like 5 extra letters in Michael?

WAKE UP

[Steve D]

I just checked, and the signature on the certificate, matches the signatures on ebay for Art Thoms of the Oakland Raiders.

Also, the address on the certificate matches records for the address Art Thoms of the Raiders lived at in the 1990s.

Finally, there is an "Art Thoms Locker Room" on Facebook, and the same "Art Thoms Locker Room" is listed on yellowpages.com.


Steve

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Steve D

I just checked, and the signature on the certificate, matches the signatures on ebay for Art Thoms of the Oakland Raiders.

So at least you're getting a real Art Thoms autograph.

[JollyElm]

How funny would it be if the Michael Jordan turned out to be real, but the Art Thoms on the cert was a forgery?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Jim65

So at least you're getting a real Art Thoms autograph.

Art Thoms

aka

Art Toms or

Art Thomas or

Bart Thoms or

Bart Thomas

Yes folks, at Art’s Artifacts where sort of good is good enough. All of the above autographs have at least 7 of the 8 correct letters in the correct sequence and all would be certified by Art, guaranteed. And we stand behind our certs, well behind in fact. At Art’s Artifacts we consign only with the finest, or sort of fine, auction houses on eBay, like Coach’s Corner and PWCC, or you can buy directly from Art’s Locker, where getting a COA is made simple. Check us out of Facebook, like us on Twitter. Send us a photo of your item on Instagram and we’ll send you a cert saving you postage as well.