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Old 05-18-2019, 09:09 AM
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This one is horrendous!!!!! You'd think the trimmed edges from the doctor would appear different in color than the natural rough cut that was left alone on the bottom.
I’ve seen no evidence that PSA is crooked, i.e. graders being bribed. While it’s obvious that in such a sloppy company run by such a sloppy guy like Orlando, with such opportunities available, I always felt it possible. But without at least strong circumstantial or some direct evidence, I’d never come out and accuse them of fraud as I have with Brent and PWCC which I can easily say is a crooked operation, knee-deep in easily proven fraud. However, after seeing this before and after set of pics, what else can any objective person think? I mean that shit is crazy. Either Stevie Wonder is grading cards at PSA or something nefarious is going on. What else can it be?

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Old 05-18-2019, 09:22 AM
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I’ve seen no evidence that PSA is crooked, i.e. graders being bribed. While it’s obvious that in such a sloppy company run by such a sloppy guy like Orlando, with such opportunities available, I always felt it possible. But without at least strong circumstantial or some direct evidence, I’d never come out and accuse them of fraud as I have with Brent and PWCC which I can easily say is a crooked operation, knee-deep in easily proven fraud. However, after seeing this before and after set of pics, what else can any objective person think? I mean that shit is crazy. Either Stevie Wonder is grading cards at PSA or something nefarious is going on. What else can it be?
Well.... in fairness I guess ... I think the size of these does vary and maybe the trimmer did something to make the edges look original. Maybe.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:47 AM
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I’ve seen no evidence that PSA is crooked, i.e. graders being bribed. While it’s obvious that in such a sloppy company run by such a sloppy guy like Orlando, with such opportunities available, I always felt it possible. But without at least strong circumstantial or some direct evidence, I’d never come out and accuse them of fraud as I have with Brent and PWCC which I can easily say is a crooked operation, knee-deep in easily proven fraud. However, after seeing this before and after set of pics, what else can any objective person think? I mean that shit is crazy. Either Stevie Wonder is grading cards at PSA or something nefarious is going on. What else can it be?
And this is where we are at today. A few years more down the road, I think we'll find the evidence that PSA is GAI.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:54 AM
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And this is where we are at today. A few years more down the road, I think we'll find the evidence that PSA is GAI.
I don't think so. GAI was a one or two person operation. PSA is a division of a public company. Not so easy to corrupt. But I have to admit I have no great explanation for some of these cards.
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Old 05-18-2019, 10:26 AM
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I don't think so. GAI was a one or two person operation. PSA is a division of a public company. Not so easy to corrupt. But I have to admit I have no great explanation for some of these cards.
Plenty of public companies are corrupt. And PSA is not exactly run like a Fortune 500 company.
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I’ve seen no evidence that PSA is crooked, i.e. graders being bribed. While it’s obvious that in such a sloppy company run by such a sloppy guy like Orlando, with such opportunities available, I always felt it possible. But without at least strong circumstantial or some direct evidence, I’d never come out and accuse them of fraud as I have with Brent and PWCC which I can easily say is a crooked operation, knee-deep in easily proven fraud. However, after seeing this before and after set of pics, what else can any objective person think? I mean that shit is crazy. Either Stevie Wonder is grading cards at PSA or something nefarious is going on. What else can it be?
Based on some of the cards BO has exposed, the trimmers are buying some fairly expensive cards to alter. Seem like they are pretty confident that they get trim the cards and get them in holders. To spend $500 or more for a card, you have to know you can get it holdered or else you have money to burn. Do you think they just keep subbing until it gets past the graders?
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Based on some of the cards BO has exposed, the trimmers are buying some fairly expensive cards to alter. Seem like they are pretty confident that they get trim the cards and get them in holders. To spend $500 or more for a card, you have to know you can get it holdered or else you have money to burn. Do you think they just keep subbing until it gets past the graders?
How many replies would a thread titled

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10. 4 for the edges, 4 for the corners, 1 each for front and back
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