My exceptional PWCC pickup.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

At 10x you should put together and post a wantlist.

Quite honestly i'm holding out for the Vault Marketplace that will be available later this year. There is no doubt in my mind there will be superior examples of cards I need that fellow Net54 board members cannot even offer.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Quite honestly i'm holding out for the Vault Marketplace that will be available later this year. There is no doubt in my mind there will be superior examples of cards I need that fellow Net54 board members cannot even offer.

I'd bet dollar to donuts that "fellow Net54 members" will consign some of those cards. So your idea that we can't offer any "superior examples" seems quite ludicrous.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'd bet dollar to donuts that "fellow Net54 members" will consign some of those cards. So your idea that we can't offer any "superior examples" seems quite ludicrous.

Then its sour grapes when they don't sell for record prices.

Just to cover our bases for the next rehash

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Then its sour grapes when they don't sell for record prices.

Just to cover our bases for the next rehash

The "marketplace vault" is a "set your price" type deal. Like the BST board. Except things should sell for more through PWCC.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

The "marketplace vault" is a "set your price" type deal. Like the BST board. Except things should sell for more through PWCC.

I can only imagine how high prices are going to be...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I can only imagine how high prices are going to be...

Quality work isn't cheap.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Quality work isn't cheap.

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[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I can only imagine how high prices are going to be...

Originally Posted by bnorth

Quality work isn't cheap.

Goudey77:

"So in love, sad as could be
'Cause a pretty face got the best of me
Suddenly you came into my life
And gave it meaning and pure delight"

frankbmd:

"But I know beauty's only skin deep
Yeah yeah yeah"

(Yes indeed)

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I can only imagine how high prices are going to be...

Didn't Memory Lane experiment like that with something called "Own It Now"? How did that go? Are they still doing that?

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'd bet dollar to donuts that "fellow Net54 members" will consign some of those cards. So your idea that we can't offer any "superior examples" seems quite ludicrous.

From my understanding the vault marketplace will be for cards that are stored in the PWCC vault. It is also my understanding that Net54 members don't use use their services
If i'm wrong i'd welcome those who do use PWCC services reach out so we can privately discuss our experiences, ideas and strategies moving forward. It really is an exciting time to be back in the hobby.

[Republicaninmass]

Hi Martin, I remember you posting about the cracket Jack price increases a month ago.


"I am shocked at the vcp data for how much prices have jumped in 2017, 2018. I cannot make sense of the erratic price on a card that has been around for over a hundred years. Price trends for 100 years do not support the new going rate."


I guess the answer is eye appeal. Also, I happened to notice you are in the Pacific NW, curious how far are you from Oswego Lake? A lot of strategies being discussed up there.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Hi Martin, I remember you posting about the cracket Jack price increases a month ago.


"I am shocked at the vcp data for how much prices have jumped in 2017, 2018. I cannot make sense of the erratic price on a card that has been around for over a hundred years. Price trends for 100 years do not support the new going rate."


I guess the answer is eye appeal. Also, I happened to notice you are in the Pacific NW, curious how far are you from Oswego Lake? A lot of strategies being discussed up there.

I’m an Oregon resident. Nothing but a coincidence. It’s a hot market for the west coast.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And it gets even better, PWCC promised today to stop dealing with card doctors!! Of course, I guess that's sort of an admission that they have been, but whatever. The glass is half full, or at least a quarter.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

From my understanding the vault marketplace will be for cards that are stored in the PWCC vault. It is also my understanding that Net54 members don't use use their services
If i'm wrong i'd welcome those who do use PWCC services reach out so we can privately discuss our experiences, ideas and strategies moving forward. It really is an exciting time to be back in the hobby.

I spoke to a former IRS agent from the Criminal Investigation Unit today and I explained to him what Brent is doing with his vault. He told me I must have rocks in my head to think that is legal. Notice I am not inserting a winkie emoji, Martin.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I spoke to a former IRS agent from the Criminal Investigation Unit today and I explained to him what Brent is doing with his vault. He told me I must have rocks in my head to think that is legal. Notice I am not inserting a winkie emoji, Martin.

To paraphrase Mark Antony.

But Brady says it's not about sales tax, and Brady is an honorable man.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To paraphrase Mark Antony.

But Brady says it's not about sales tax, and Brady is an honorable man.

Sales tax? What sales tax? You mean the vault allows people to evade tax? Oh my god what an awesome unintended benefit!

[Republicaninmass]

If you keep profits in your all new PWCC money market account, you dont have to pay tax on those either. He's moving to the Caymans

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I spoke to a former IRS agent from the Criminal Investigation Unit today and I explained to him what Brent is doing with his vault. He told me I must have rocks in my head to think that is legal. Notice I am not inserting a winkie emoji, Martin.

May I remind you that this vault is a multi million dollar investment by the company. Probably wise to do research before making assumptions and getting counsel from random professionals on the matter. Because the due diligence has absolutely been done by those with skin in the game.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

May I remind you that this vault is a multi million dollar investment by the company. Probably wise to do research before making assumptions and getting counsel from random professionals on the matter. Because the due diligence has absolutely been done by those with skin in the game.

It's unfortunate a similar level of due diligence was not done with all the consignors PWCC now has to sever ties with (or claim to) to try to save its battered reputation.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

May I remind you that this vault is a multi million dollar investment by the company. Probably wise to do research before making assumptions and getting counsel from random professionals on the matter. Because the due diligence has absolutely been done by those with skin in the game.

Would it be better if I spoke to a top NY criminal defense attorney?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Here is the basic contour of the issue from an online source.

Just remember, avoiding the tax at checkout doesn’t mean you’ve avoided it forever. You are liable for use tax if you bring the goods into your state or have them shipped to you. States historically didn’t enforce use tax except against businesses, but that’s changing. Many state income tax forms now collect use tax, and remember, you sign tax returns under penalty of perjury.

I would be surprised if all the cards being shipped to the vault are going to be resold through the marketplace particularly those purchased at record prices. I suspect a high percentage will be shipped from PWCC to their owners.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Would it be better if I spoke to a top NY criminal defense attorney?

Meh, random professional.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

May I remind you that this vault is a multi million dollar investment by the company. Probably wise to do research before making assumptions and getting counsel from random professionals on the matter. Because the due diligence has absolutely been done by those with skin in the game.

You now have crossed the line, for me, to sounding like a company shill. I had given you the benefit of the doubt.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You now have crossed the line, for me, to sounding like a company shill. I had given you the benefit of the doubt.

The posts from the guy criticizing the OP for how much he spent on a card crossed the line of what should be acceptable on this forum, in my opinion. The comment you quoted actually sounds accurate. I don't believe they would build the vault without looking into the legality and tax implications.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by calvindog

He told me I must have rocks in my head. Notice I am not inserting a winkie emoji, Martin.

Fixed it for you.
Having a little fun. Let’s loosen up this joint.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I spoke to a former IRS agent from the Criminal Investigation Unit today and I explained to him what Brent is doing with his vault. He told me I must have rocks in my head to think that is legal. Notice I am not inserting a winkie emoji, Martin.

Oh the irony. What do you think of the vault now Mr. Lichtman?
Why don't snakes bite attorneys? Professional courtesy.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Oh the irony. What do you think of the vault now Mr. Lichtman?
Why don't snakes bite attorneys? Professional courtesy.

I think the vault is a joke. Just like you.

[CobbSpikedMe]

What of anything that Jeff has posted makes you think his opinion of the Vault has changed (of all things)?

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I think the vault is a joke. Just like you.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings

Good on you for fighting the fight.