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Old 05-12-2019, 05:28 PM
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It's also possible that the before and after shots aren't even be the same card.

If you look at the back of the card, you can see the remnants of the stain on the PSA 4. It matches the stain on the SGC 1.5, meaning it is the same card.

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Old 05-12-2019, 05:57 PM
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Very depressing. TPGs need to step up their game on expensive cards. As a collector I know I have put too much faith in these companies based on what has been revealed over the last several months in particular.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:09 PM
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Even if it's not the same card and not re-colored that seems like a real sketchy 4.

Did it also get a PWCC sticker for exceptional eye appeal?

Even on the doctored card there's still obvious staining on the back, and paper loss as evidenced by a bunch of type being almost unreadable.

If that were, say a 1957 Topps card with those issues, would it have gotten any better then a "2"?
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:24 PM
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I agree. Even if not doctored (and I fully believe it is the same card and the card was totally doctored), how on earth did it get a 4 with the paper loss on front and the missing lettering on back? PSA screwed the pooch x2 on this one.
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:26 PM
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If you look at the back of the card, you can see the remnants of the stain on the PSA 4. It matches the stain on the SGC 1.5, meaning it is the same card.

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How did the words Anson and Brouthers reappear on the back where there seems to be paper loss on the 1.5? Or is that extra material that was stuck maybe?
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:34 PM
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How did the words Anson and Brouthers reappear on the back where there seems to be paper loss on the 1.5? Or is that extra material that was stuck maybe?
Not paper loss. It's scrapbook remnants (or whatever it was glued to).
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Not paper loss. It's scrapbook remnants (or whatever it was glued to).
Thanks David, that makes sense.
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Here's a T206 that I sold last year that had residue on the back. I bought it thinking it was paper loss until it arrived and I looked at it hand.

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If you look at the back of the card, you can see the remnants of the stain on the PSA 4. It matches the stain on the SGC 1.5, meaning it is the same card.

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yeah but the ignorant blind poker player only sees what he wants, not the facts
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yeah but the ignorant blind poker player only sees what he wants, not the facts
It's probably the same card, but it is possible two cards had similar stains. Just like it's possible the card was recolored, and it's possible it wasn't. Are you really too stupid to understand that?
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