My exceptional PWCC pickup.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Some surface wrinkles are more exceptional than others.

Bingo! This ones got the variety that’s impossible to pickup on a scan or photo. Thank god for the sticker that told me so. thanks for the laughs Frank

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Bingo! This ones got the variety that’s impossible to pickup on a scan or photo. Thank god for the sticker that told me so. thanks for the laughs Frank

I sold this card recently. You could barely see the wrinkle in the scan, so I took a pic at an angle to show it properly. It can be done.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=267130

[oldjudge]

As far as I can recall, this is the only card that I have won in a PWCC auction. The first image is an EBay listing image. The second is an image I took when I received the card. Needless to say, the card was returned. I can live without PWCC.

[Peter_Spaeth]

resized Jay's second pic to show wrinkles

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

as far as i can recall, this is the only card that i have won in a pwcc auction. The first image is an ebay listing image. The second is an image i took when i received the card. Needless to say, the card was returned. I can live without pwcc.

lolol

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Looks like a classic candidate for crease removal, which is often temporary, and they can come back with a vengeance.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As far as I can recall, this is the only card that I have won in a PWCC auction. The first image is an EBay listing image. The second is an image I took when I received the card. Needless to say, the card was returned. I can live without PWCC.

What was the card graded?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As far as I can recall, this is the only card that I have won in a PWCC auction. The first image is an EBay listing image. The second is an image I took when I received the card. Needless to say, the card was returned. I can live without PWCC.

The good doctor must have been busy that week.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

The good doctor must have been busy that week.

I think in the case of Jay's card it was just that the scan did not really show the wrinkles or certainly the extent of them.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think in the case of Jay's card it was just that the scan did not really show the wrinkles or certainly the extent of them.

YES I KNOW...creative scanning instead. I like you go out of my way to show defects...but I rarely sell...not that that should matter!

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

YES I KNOW...creative scanning instead. I like you go out of my way to show defects...but I rarely sell...not that that should matter!

C'mon Pete, you can't expect a high-volume seller like PWCC to describe or accurately scan every obscure card like Jay's '33 Goudey Babe Ruth. That takes away from valuable sticker stickin' time.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think in the case of Jay's card it was just that the scan did not really show the wrinkles or certainly the extent of them.

Damn I need their scanner. Mine shows all the defects.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Damn I need their scanner. Mine shows all the defects.

Stick it in the vault, and nobody will be the wiser

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As far as I can recall, this is the only card that I have won in a PWCC auction. The first image is an EBay listing image. The second is an image I took when I received the card. Needless to say, the card was returned. I can live without PWCC.

a scanner with beer goggles, classic

[griffon512]

Martin, I think you paid a very reasonable price for a card with great eye appeal. The hobby is moving quickly in the direction of eye appeal being paramount to technical grade, and I think that's a good thing. It means hobbyists have more power in determining subjective value rather than an equally subjective grading process.

The balance between your focus and that of many others on this thread is their experience of getting a card where the eye appeal or objective flaws of the card once in hand were much different than what was depicted/described to them. Fortunately that wasn't the case with your Waddell, but that's a very legitimate gripe. See? Common ground. Now can we all move on?

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by griffon512

Martin, I think you paid a very reasonable price for a card with great eye appeal. The hobby is moving quickly in the direction of eye appeal being paramount to technical grade, and I think that's a good thing. It means hobbyists have more power in determining subjective value rather than an equally subjective grading process.

The balance between your focus and that of many others on this thread is their experience of getting a card where the eye appeal or objective flaws of the card once in hand were much different than what was depicted/described to them. Fortunately that wasn't the case with your Waddell, but that's a very legitimate gripe. See? Common ground. Now can we all move on?

Very well said James. Subjective value! I couldn't agree more and hope others realize that this is the trend moving forward. I understand old habits die hard.