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Old 04-29-2019, 11:55 AM
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Yes, the photos seem hard to contest.

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I suspect PSA's graders, particularly if these cards are going to junior graders, just are not up to the task of detecting work by master card doctors. But that, IMO, has long been the case. As I've said many times, and quoting a friend of mine, for your modest grading fee you aren't buying a crime lab.
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A related thread that, if true, is disturbing on several levels.

http://www.sportscardradio.com/heroe...up-break-scam/
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Modern collectors that don't read blowout are doing themselves a disservice.
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Modern collectors that don't read blowout are doing themselves a disservice.
You have to wonder if anyone really cares.
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You have to wonder if anyone really cares.
People care, the percentage of them is so low that nothing ever changes.
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I guess, Ben. Seems like more and more and more of the hobby is moving to the holy trinity of PWCC, PSA, and altered cards.
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Again, half of these cards were graded by BGS (check the other threads all over blowout). And at least with PSA, the buyers have the Grade Guarantee and can get their money back. With BGS, what do they get? Nada. And this is the holy grail modern market that SGC is trying to get a foothold in. Good luck. The only reason they're not exposed is because nobody submits to them for this.

But yes, they are still setting record prices with modern card grading because the buyers don't seem to know the whole story yet.
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I guess, Ben. Seems like more and more and more of the hobby is moving to the holy trinity of PWCC, PSA, and altered cards.
It seems to me that PWCC is getting more and more culpable. There was a card in last month's auction basically advertising it was ready to be trimmed. The description was.....

Fantastic Nicklaus rookie card on the market this month. A some what over-sized copy which boasts sharp corners, strong card stock and beautiful surfaces. A couple points better centered and this would grade higher. One of nearly 15,000 cards, lots, and sets up for bid in our 4th Auction of 2019. Click on the link above to view the other PWCC auction lots. The PWCC Vault is now live! Open a PWCC Vault account and receive a custom Vault shipping address. Purchases shipped to the Vault receive free shipping and reflect Oregon's 0% sales tax rate

If you see a 1971 Nicklaus PSA 10 come up soon, you'll know where it came from.
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