FS Autograph Collection. Mostly Yankees w/ Jeter, Rivera, Mantle, DiMaggio. + Ted Wil

[brian29575]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I didn't notice one "discounted" price.

The forgeries I observed, even if authentic, were not "discount" prices.

They would have been after offers made

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by brian29575

It is also annoying that all you hear is negative feedback and to receive positive feedback is like pulling teeth. This is exactly why I do not collect autos unless I saw the person sign and even then I have had items not pass psa.

Let me throw you my free advice. I have been in business over a decade and deal with a lot of autographs.

You were taken.

You bought a lot of bad stuff. The seller was happy to be rid of it and you’ll never see that money again. He’s gone and breathing a sigh of relief that you took it off his hands. If you want to throw good money after bad then submit them for authentication. Thousands more out the window if it makes you feel better.

Even if everything was authentic, the selling prices are unrealistic. I have sold many of the same items at way less. Some at half of the price or less. And that’s in a retail store with the items being 100% authenticated - not in an online forum with no overhead and mostly no paperwork.

I don’t know what to tell you on the positive end except to use this as a learning experience.

[brian29575]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Let me throw you my free advice. I have been in business over a decade and deal with a lot of autographs.

You were taken.

You bought a lot of bad stuff. The seller was happy to be rid of it and you’ll never see that money again. He’s gone and breathing a sigh of relief that you took it off his hands. If you want to throw good money after bad then submit them for authentication. Thousands more out the window if it makes you feel better.

Even if everything was authentic, the selling prices are unrealistic. I have sold many of the same items at way less. Some at half of the price or less. And that’s in a retail store with the items being 100% authenticated - not in an online forum with no overhead and mostly no paperwork.

I don’t know what to tell you on the positive end except to use this as a learning experience.

Appreciate the negative feedback, but you are wrong. Like I have said, this is not the entire collection and there are plenty of items that are good and will be sold to make a profit. I was hoping someone could be more specific on which items that did not have Psa or Steiner, but still look authentic.

[brian29575]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Let me throw you my free advice. I have been in business over a decade and deal with a lot of autographs.

You were taken.

You bought a lot of bad stuff. The seller was happy to be rid of it and you’ll never see that money again. He’s gone and breathing a sigh of relief that you took it off his hands. If you want to throw good money after bad then submit them for authentication. Thousands more out the window if it makes you feel better.

Even if everything was authentic, the selling prices are unrealistic. I have sold many of the same items at way less. Some at half of the price or less. And that’s in a retail store with the items being 100% authenticated - not in an online forum with no overhead and mostly no paperwork.

I don’t know what to tell you on the positive end except to use this as a learning experience.

As far as the prices go, I always like to start high and negotiate. I would’ve probably taken half for some of the items.

[brian29575]

What do you guys think about the Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio?

[earlywynnfan]

Here are my thoughts after almost 30 years of collecting: You have a lot of items with reputable sources. But so much of your high-end stuff is crap that I have no interest looking through the rest for "deals." Take everything that's not Steiner or UDA and submit it to PSA or JSA and bring the winners back to us. Consign the losers to Coach's Corner and get your money back, if you don't mind doing to others what someone did to you.

You don't seem to realize it, but your tone has offended. "Pulling teeth" just to get positive replies? When one of the most valued members has already helped you from embarrassing yourself with all those bad Jeters? How about being thankful so many have already taken the time to even look?

You're jerking around the most respected collectors around. You have a pile of overpriced, easy to find items riddled with turds. Nobody around here has patience for that. I'd suggest pulling it all, cleaning it up, and then posting.

Ken

[brian29575]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Here are my thoughts after almost 30 years of collecting: You have a lot of items with reputable sources. But so much of your high-end stuff is crap that I have no interest looking through the rest for "deals." Take everything that's not Steiner or UDA and submit it to PSA or JSA and bring the winners back to us. Consign the losers to Coach's Corner and get your money back, if you don't mind doing to others what someone did to you.

You don't seem to realize it, but your tone has offended. "Pulling teeth" just to get positive replies? When one of the most valued members has already helped you from embarrassing yourself with all those bad Jeters? How about being thankful so many have already taken the time to even look?

You're jerking around the most respected collectors around. You have a pile of overpriced, easy to find items riddled with turds. Nobody around here has patience for that. I'd suggest pulling it all, cleaning it up, and then posting.

Ken

I am thankful. It is just annoying that the only feedback received is negative and not a single person has said any of the items look good. Maybe they are all bad, but not likely.

[brian29575]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Here are my thoughts after almost 30 years of collecting: You have a lot of items with reputable sources. But so much of your high-end stuff is crap that I have no interest looking through the rest for "deals." Take everything that's not Steiner or UDA and submit it to PSA or JSA and bring the winners back to us. Consign the losers to Coach's Corner and get your money back, if you don't mind doing to others what someone did to you.

You don't seem to realize it, but your tone has offended. "Pulling teeth" just to get positive replies? When one of the most valued members has already helped you from embarrassing yourself with all those bad Jeters? How about being thankful so many have already taken the time to even look?

You're jerking around the most respected collectors around. You have a pile of overpriced, easy to find items riddled with turds. Nobody around here has patience for that. I'd suggest pulling it all, cleaning it up, and then posting.

Ken

Also I do not appreciate the comments of everyone telling me I am going to lose money on the deal when they do not even know what else was included in the purchase. What I really would like is for someone to give their opinion on all of the items that are not PSA/UD/Steiner. I realize that may be too much to ask, but is what I was hoping for.

[Lordstan]

I don't know most of the Jeter and newer Yankee stuff, but Chris is the best at Jeter that I am aware of. If he says they are bad, they are bad.

I will comment on the couple items I do feel comfortable opining on.
The Mantles that I saw are all bad.
The Dimaggio and Williams MAY be good, but I would buy neither as they both look a little off to me.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by brian29575

No I paid about $5000 for everything pictured and I figured some of it wasn't good.

Originally Posted by brian29575

Also I do not appreciate the comments of everyone telling me I am going to lose money on the deal when they do not even know what else was included in the purchase.

I think this sums it up for you. First you say that you paid $5k for everything pictured and then tell us that we don’t know what else was included. I don’t know where to go with this.

I’m sorry you got burned. They lumped all of their bad stuff in and peppered it with probably some good stuff to make it appealing and you bought it. We’ve all bought some bad stuff. I’ve been burned a couple of times. It will take a lot of time and effort to make some money back with this. Take the advice you were given here. Throw out the bad stuff. Do what you can with whats left. Try to minimize your expenses involved. It’s not going to be easy. Good luck.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by brian29575

What do you guys think about the Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio?

The Williams is slowly drawn and is an all around poorly executed forgery, IMHO. The #9 inscription is rarely seen which would give me pause from the get go.

The "Jae" Dimaggio was friends with "Gauriano" Rivera another well known forgery style, IMHO.

So,
If I said I think the Paul O'Neil is good would that help?