Possible Ebay Scammer? Or Am I at Fault?

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by Bagwell-1994

When I created listings, I believe it forced me to chose a generic condition from a drop-down box. I dont know how to avoid that, other than to chose the lowest possible condition of "acceptable"?

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Yes, that would insulate you from the BS claim that it doesn't match condition. Acceptable doesn't appear on any grading service so no chance for confusion.

[Exhibitman]

So this thieving pig has your card and the money? I'd call the police in your area and see about getting them to contact the police in his area and open a case for criminal fraud. I'd also be in contact with the postal inspector to open a mail fraud investigation.

[D. Bergin]

Yeah, this guy stole your card pure and simple. Whatever the generic grade says in the item specific section, shouldn't matter a lick. You put PSA 2 in the title, you have a big ass picture in the description and you have PSA 2 in the description.

Even if you didn't have all that, he stole your card.

30 Ebay accounts? Jesus.........and Ebay doesn't find that the slightest bit suspicious?

[Yastrzemski Sports]

That credit card refund scam can work out badly for him. He’s already lied to his credit card company. It’s fraud and it’s grand theft. I would go after him through the police.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yeah, this guy stole your card pure and simple. Whatever the generic grade says in the item specific section, shouldn't matter a lick. You put PSA 2 in the title, you have a big ass picture in the description and you have PSA 2 in the description.

Even if you didn't have all that, he stole your card.

30 Ebay accounts? Jesus.........and Ebay doesn't find that the slightest bit suspicious?

Agree with david omg

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yeah, this guy stole your card pure and simple. Whatever the generic grade says in the item specific section, shouldn't matter a lick. You put PSA 2 in the title, you have a big ass picture in the description and you have PSA 2 in the description.

Even if you didn't have all that, he stole your card.

30 Ebay accounts? Jesus.........and Ebay doesn't find that the slightest bit suspicious?

I had an issue with a guy who collects a specific photographer's real photo postcards. He left me a negative because he purchased three postcards with damage on the front. He believed from my pics that there was paper stuck to the front of the cards, but there was actually paper missing. I offered to refund if he sent the cards back, but he just wanted a refund and not have the "hassle" of sending the cards back. I refused, he negged me, I called ebay showed them the correspondence back and forth between us and they removed his negative. (btw all you have to do is offer a free return and ebay will remove a negative now). I blocked him and a few months later this guy under a new ID purchased a postcard from me, got it and left a negative. I suspected it was him and found that he'd used the same paypal ID to buy the card. Ebay removed the negative and I blocked his new ID.

Another month or so goes by and he buys another card from me with a new ID and leaves a negative when he gets the card. I call ebay and they remove the negative. I complain and ask them to kick this guy off their platform. The ebay rep agrees, but he says he doesn't have that power. He did inform me though the guy had 14 accounts and he added all 14 of his IDs to my blocked bidder list. I haven't had a problem since then, but I assume the a-hole will hit me again when I list a Sanborn card he doesn't have.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I had an issue with a guy who collects a specific photographer's real photo postcards. He left me a negative because he purchased three postcards with damage on the front. He believed from my pics that there was paper stuck to the front of the cards, but there was actually paper missing. I offered to refund if he sent the cards back, but he just wanted a refund and not have the "hassle" of sending the cards back. I refused, he negged me, I called ebay showed them the correspondence back and forth between us and they removed his negative. (btw all you have to do is offer a free return and ebay will remove a negative now). I blocked him and a few months later this guy under a new ID purchased a postcard from me, got it and left a negative. I suspected it was him and found that he'd used the same paypal ID to buy the card. Ebay removed the negative and I blocked his new ID.

Another month or so goes by and he buys another card from me with a new ID and leaves a negative when he gets the card. I call ebay and they remove the negative. I complain and ask them to kick this guy off their platform. The ebay rep agrees, but he says he doesn't have that power. He did inform me though the guy had 14 accounts and he added all 14 of his IDs to my blocked bidder list. I haven't had a problem since then, but I assume the a-hole will hit me again when I list a Sanborn card he doesn't have.

Geez....some people need to get a life.

[Exhibitman]

Unfortunately, the world is full of vindictive douchebags, so the hobby gets its share.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I had an issue with a guy who collects a specific photographer's real photo postcards. He left me a negative because he purchased three postcards with damage on the front. He believed from my pics that there was paper stuck to the front of the cards, but there was actually paper missing. I offered to refund if he sent the cards back, but he just wanted a refund and not have the "hassle" of sending the cards back. I refused, he negged me, I called ebay showed them the correspondence back and forth between us and they removed his negative. (btw all you have to do is offer a free return and ebay will remove a negative now). I blocked him and a few months later this guy under a new ID purchased a postcard from me, got it and left a negative. I suspected it was him and found that he'd used the same paypal ID to buy the card. Ebay removed the negative and I blocked his new ID.

Another month or so goes by and he buys another card from me with a new ID and leaves a negative when he gets the card. I call ebay and they remove the negative. I complain and ask them to kick this guy off their platform. The ebay rep agrees, but he says he doesn't have that power. He did inform me though the guy had 14 accounts and he added all 14 of his IDs to my blocked bidder list. I haven't had a problem since then, but I assume the a-hole will hit me again when I list a Sanborn card he doesn't have.

I wonder what Ebay thinks the benefit is with letting the same person hold multiple accounts like that. That only allows for shady sh*t to go down, and not much else.

I've only ever had one account, but I completely understand if somebody wants to break up their buying from their selling account, or they have a huge store and want multiple accounts to sell different type products.........but otherwise, all other reason I imagine would be pretty sketchy.

[jchcollins]

Crazy story. Hopefully PayPal will do the right thing and get you your money back. I know exactly what you are talking about with the "generic" condition descripions that are required on listings, and those that have commented are right - they really don't make sense on graded card listings where the condition is inherent in the listing and on the slab in addition to being much more specific. They do all kinds of things with card listings pre-filled, for example what team, player and year it is - so I don't understand if you say PSA graded why they could not in-turn just give a drop down choice of what grade it is, 1-10, with choices for qualifiers, etc. The "very good" description could be if you are selling a piece of furniture and just need a generic term.

[ATP]

I meant to reply to this one before, and forgot. Then I saw you mention it on a different thread and remembered. I've had scam buyers try similar things before, I had one a few years ago for over $7000 and I know there's a couple others here who posted good instructions on how to best win these situations. The best piece of advice I can give you (and I won all of the cases and either kept the original funds and they kept the card or I received the card back and refunded) is DO NOT WAIT for paypal to make their automated decision. Provide everything they need up front, tell them you have satisfied your seller protection requirements (if you have), and that you want the case closed NOW and they can work out the chargeback situation behind the scenes. If you met all of the requirements (and one of these is getting signature confirmation on the delivery, if you did not you will probably end up losing this one), like proof they signed for delivery, upload it. Don't wait to get that either as I think the Post Office no longer keeps them on record for as long as they used to. File the police report now, then upload it to paypal. Upload anything else relevant. Then call and get them to close the case on the phone. Don't let a decision be made and then try to get it reversed, it probably won't happen. Good luck I hope it works out okay for you.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

So this thieving pig has your card and the money? I'd call the police in your area and see about getting them to contact the police in his area and open a case for criminal fraud. I'd also be in contact with the postal inspector to open a mail fraud investigation.

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