How to spot a fake 1963 Pete Rose?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ALBB

should one be proud to own a collection of "original reprints " ?..

Imagine the prestige associated with having counterfeit baseball cards that have been stamped on the back .assuring you - that,yes they are original...reprints

I have to figure an original reprint is more valuable than a reprinted reprint.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I have to figure an original reprint is more valuable than a reprinted reprint.

..I only buy reprints if the seller points out that "it doesn't say 'reprint' anywhere on the card." Hey , it doesn't get any more authentic than that. ......per E-Bay rules.....

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[ALR-bishop]

I intentionally bought a fake Rose Rookie and a 59 Ted Signs fake to put labeled as such with those two sets. At one time the SCD Standard Catalog listed two fakes intentionally. One involved Topps Mini Promotional Samples from the 60s, which were Surff book cut outs patted to cardboard with Promotionsl Samples stamped on back. A 62 Mantle was pictured in the Catalog.

The other involved pewter ingot examples of the Gallery Of Chamions sets, which were done, with one exception per year from 84 to 91 in silver, bronze or aluminum

[ALBB]

Doesn't the story go .. A " Judge " ruled that these reprints/fakes could " stay in the hobby " for all to enjoy..as long as they are stamped on the back..

But did they have to stamp them " Original Reprint " ?.... why couldn't they just go with - "Counterfeit "...and leave it at that ??

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ALBB

Doesn't the story go .. A " Judge " ruled that these reprints/fakes could " stay in the hobby " for all to enjoy..as long as they are stamped on the back..

But did they have to stamp them " Original Reprint " ?.... why couldn't they just go with - "Counterfeit "...and leave it at that ??

Wouldn't someone creating a counterfeit card be in violation of copyright laws, using the name of Topps, the Major League teams and logos, and the players pictures?

[CobbSpikedMe]

I had heard that the cards were to be destroyed after they were all stamped but several examples escaped the destruction phase and remained in the hobby. I also bought one of the stamped cards and love the thing for the collectible that it is in my mind. I also have a counterfeit 1984 Donruss Mattingly that was being sold all over the place in the 80's. It's currently in an ASA slab labelled as counterfeit. I love that one too.

[ALBB]

Yes, that's right..the 84 Donruss Mattingly …..I recall a lot of those fakes...and I seem to recall 84 Donruss were not seen as often as the Topps..so that made it easier to dupe collectors

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

I had heard that the cards were to be destroyed after they were all stamped but several examples escaped the destruction phase and remained in the hobby. I also bought one of the stamped cards and love the thing for the collectible that it is in my mind. I also have a counterfeit 1984 Donruss Mattingly that was being sold all over the place in the 80's. It's currently in an ASA slab labelled as counterfeit. I love that one too.

Hi Andy

In the Summer of 1982 at the St. Louis National, counterfeit Rose rookies were available, and I bought several of them. Most of them were stamped "COUNTERFEIT".
But, some were not stamped. Anyhow, I purchased several cards of both of them. If I recall correctly, they were $5 each. Shown here are examples of each.

I could have sold the un-stamped ones as "real" (typical price in 1982 for a Rose rookie was $250). Most collectors, at that time, would not have known the difference.
But, you know me well.....I'm an honest dude.





TED Z

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