Holsum research questions

[nolemmings]

Thanks guys. I'll look more closely later tonight, but I believe the only three "semi-confirmed" Type 1s I see are the Davenport already mentioned, Graney and Pratt. Davenport is the only one of the three that does not use the 1917 pose, so he may be a Type 2, although his presence in the Holsum set(s) at all is kind of puzzling so we shall see (hopefully someone can post a back scan of that card). The Graney scan I have for Type 2 shows a longer dash between his position and team name than the front scan I have for what I believe is Type 1, so they are at least two different printings if not different Types. The Pratt has a 1920 label on the slab and shows a 1917 pose, so it seems likely that if this is instead Type 2, any Holsum card of him in Type 1 would use the same pose; i.e. the issuer would not have first used an updated or different photo and then reverted back to the 1917 pic in Type 2. Still, that does not confirm he was in fact included in Type 1.

Even if folks can't address my specific questions, I always enjoy seeing scans, so like Rick, feel free to post 'em if you got 'em.

[rhettyeakley]

Todd, Davenport is Type 2, I have never seen this card as a Type 1, and don't expect to as he seems to be from the same group as Harry Covaleskie (w/ background) and John Henry (w/ background) that were new to Holsum Type 2, Herpolsheimers, early W575-1 blank back, and Standard Biscuit. (and likely Shotwell if/when more of those come to light). These guys were all dropped before any E121 sets were made. I have not confirmed these 3 w/ all those backs bu they seem to be part of a grouping.

Pratt and Graney are both found in Type 1 with their E135 style fronts. I have not confirmed Pratt as a Type 2 but Graney is found in both Type 1 and Type 2 (same image)