Collecting Hank Aaron and Willie Mays

[Rookiemonster]

Finally got to meet Willie Mays and he was a nice as you could hope for. Maybe it’s you not him. To everyone saying he was a jerk to them.

More recently I’ve met Chipper Jones who people also say is a a hole but guess what ? It’s not true he was very nice to me and my son.

So far only one person has been anything but nice and its Juan marachal. Who was not a jerk by any means just didn’t have anything to say.

Most people are not going by a what others have to say about Mays as much as they are looking at his career and legacy which is unmatched.

Hank aaron is rude according to many and a racist but you don’t hear that as much .

[jchcollins]

Frankly these kinds of stories are another great exmplar of why I never could get into autographs, or I guess move any further towards humanizing my cardboard heroes in the hobby. As a kid in the late 1980's and early 90's, I met both Bob Feller and Duke Snider at card shows in NC and got their autos. (For what it's worth, both of them were nice to me). But for some reason I was always drawn more to the cards and the memories / nostalgia evoked by the era and the pieces of history themselves than the actual players. Sure the players matter, if they didn't I'd be a lot wealthier now chasing down vintage commons than Mantle, Mays, and Clemente cards - but for me for whatever reason I never cared to get that close. I relish the stats and the on-field accomplishments, but realize on some level that they are human when not on the field and I guess it's the knowledge of that possible hearbreak there which kept me from getting any closer. Mantle was alive and doing card shows when I first got into the hobby, but I never pursued that - even back then there were plentiful stories about his ability to be a dick (or just drunken idiot) to everyone too. Like any kid in that era who had a subscription to Beckett - I worshiped the Mick as if he were still playing alongside my 80's heroes, and I can't imagine what that would have been like had I had a bad experience.

This kind of brings up another topic indirectly related to the nostalgia and why we collect - what details "do it for you" exactly? Not to get too personal, but what's behind that dopamine hit when you look at your favorite vintage cards? Is it the players and the type of characters they were? Or is it the era and the sense of time gone by - the kids that may have ripped your cards from their original wax or cello, and what all that must have been like? As a fan of the game first and foremost for me, it will always be about both - but increasingly I like to wonder and marvel about the era and history that surrounded the cards when they were new.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Frankly these kinds of stories are another great exmplar of why I never could get into autographs, or I guess move any further towards humanizing my cardboard heroes in the hobby. As a kid in the late 1980's and early 90's, I met both Bob Feller and Duke Snider at card shows in NC and got their autos. (For what it's worth, both of them were nice to me). But for some reason I was always drawn more to the cards and the memories / nostalgia evoked by the era and the pieces of history themselves than the actual players. Sure the players matter, if they didn't I'd be a lot wealthier now chasing down vintage commons than Mantle, Mays, and Clemente cards - but for me for whatever reason I never cared to get that close. I relish the stats and the on-field accomplishments, but realize on some level that they are human when not on the field and I guess it's the knowledge of that possible hearbreak there which kept me from getting any closer. Mantle was alive and doing card shows when I first got into the hobby, but I never pursued that - even back then there were plentiful stories about his ability to be a dick (or just drunken idiot) to everyone too. Like any kid in that era who had a subscription to Beckett - I worshiped the Mick as if he were still playing alongside my 80's heroes, and I can't imagine what that would have been like had I had a bad experience.

This kind of brings up another topic indirectly related to the nostalgia and why we collect - what details "do it for you" exactly? Not to get too personal, but what's behind that dopamine hit when you look at your favorite vintage cards? Is it the players and the type of characters they were? Or is it the era and the sense of time gone by - the kids that may have ripped your cards from their original wax or cello, and what all that must have been like? As a fan of the game first and foremost for me, it will always be about both - but increasingly I like to wonder and marvel about the era and history that surrounded the cards when they were new.

Well shoot, John, you just wrote out what I have been trying to verbalize on some level for a long time. When it gets right down to it, I don't believe I ever wanted to get that close either. Since I started this thread about Aaron and Mays I will use Willie as an example of this. I guess here and there I have heard stories about Mays' attitude, but somehow I have always managed to separate the cards themselves from the actual player and his personality. The cards, especially 50s cards, evoke feelings in me that I can't rationally explain. When I see those golden colors from 1955 Topps or the combined portrait and action pose of a 1956 Topps, I am just in awe--particularly when it is Aaron, Mays, Mantle, Clemente, etc. I am just a couple of years older than you so I know all about the 80s heroes. I enjoyed those guys a lot. However, the stars of the 50s and their cards are nearly mythical to me. Like you said, it is the nostalgia, how I can only imagine how it must have been. I never was an autograph seeker either. The cards themselves were somehow enough on their own. This probably sounds naive to those who had direct personal encounters, but it is what makes me tick.

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[MikeGarcia]

..I've always liked the look of these......remind me to buy a new scanner...

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[MarcosCards]

Originally Posted by jchollins
“...but what's behind that dopamine hit when you look at your favorite vintage cards?”

Oooh, I like the term dopamine hit to describe the unexplainable rush when looking at favorite vintage cards. I know that volumes have been written about this phenomena — on this forum and elsewhere. And, of course, the reaction is different and personal for each collector.

Fortunately, I have all the cards from my childhood collection (early 1960s — when Mays and Aaron were in their prime). Whenever I go through my cards, sweet memories of the lazy, carefree summer days of my childhood come flooding back. After a while, I realize my face kinda hurts from all the smiling. Oh to have access to a time machine — and the discretionary income that I now have.

[samosa4u]

I think the Hank Aaron rookie is a good buy right now. I didn't want to start shopping for them once PSA 3 examples start hitting $2,000 US, so I decided to pick up a few nice ones early this year. I might buy a couple more this summer.

[VintageVinnie]

Numeric grade aside, try for centered examples, especially from the '54 set where centering is an issue on all the cards.