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Old 04-10-2019, 06:57 PM
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This set has a weird dichotomy that prior to the find, a PSA 5 was a wonderful conditioned card and would sell for a premium since the majority of known examples were in lower grade. So everyone that bought in to mid-grade cards prior to the find spent a bunch of money.
Once the find occurred, those original collectors probably felt bait and switched just because their classic set which was high grade at the time, relatively speaking, would now be considered low to midgrade forevermore, because of BSF.

I'd probably feel the same about the thousands I've spent on accruing the highest graded PSA set of T51 Murad cards, but I knew that was a risk when I started it.
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:49 PM
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When I first heard about the BSF I thought the backstory would be something like:

( " hey all, my great grandfather was the senior v.p. at Old Put Cigars and he took these 700 cards in f-nm home directly from the producer and they have not seen the light of day until now. Enjoy.")

Instead they are in nm/mt to gem mint pristine with basically no explanation.
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When I first heard about the BSF I thought the backstory would be something like:

( " hey all, my great grandfather was the senior v.p. at Old Put Cigars and he took these 700 cards in f-nm home directly from the producer and they have not seen the light of day until now. Enjoy.")

Instead they are in nm/mt to gem mint pristine with basically no explanation.
I think Paul alluded to this, is there any serious theory that these are not period?
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When I first heard about the BSF I thought the backstory would be something like:

( " hey all, my great grandfather was the senior v.p. at Old Put Cigars and he took these 700 cards in f-nm home directly from the producer and they have not seen the light of day until now. Enjoy.")

Instead they are in nm/mt to gem mint pristine with basically no explanation.
And all terribly miscut, when I can't remember ever seeing any miscut like this, before the BSF
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In the low-brow collecting world of my mind the Black Swamp Find should make E98 beaters more expensive than their much more common top grade compatriots.

Brian (In order to be fully transparent, I will disclose that I am owner of some E98 beaters, and thus would likely benefit from such a hierarchial flip-flop).
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This set has a weird dichotomy that prior to the find, a PSA 5 was a wonderful conditioned card and would sell for a premium since the majority of known examples were in lower grade. So everyone that bought in to mid-grade cards prior to the find spent a bunch of money.
Once the find occurred, those original collectors probably felt bait and switched just because their classic set which was high grade at the time, relatively speaking, would now be considered low to midgrade forevermore, because of BSF.

I'd probably feel the same about the thousands I've spent on accruing the highest graded PSA set of T51 Murad cards, but I knew that was a risk when I started it.
Agree 100%. When I put my E98 set together there were several SGC 50's and 60's because they were the highest or 2nd highest at the time. Little did I know the Black Swamp Find was on the horizon. Luckily I bought 5 Black Swamp cards as upgrades to my set but waited until the prices started to fall. I do feel your pain though because of the glut of high graded BSF cards on the market. Still glad I have it as it is a nice small set. I'm just hoping there is never a "White Meadows Find" of pristine E94s lol...
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