Q on OJ Rookie(s?) and casual WTB information

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

LOL about as awful as I expected, thanks!

[pgconboy]

I've since made it a bit easier to keep track of which HOF auto rookies I looking for.

WTB any missing that are mentioned here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

SPECIFICALLY wanting to buy these autographed rookies:
1984 Reggie White USFL
1958 Jim Brown (psa 4ish)
1977 Mike Webster
2014 Johnny Hekker
1962 Mike Ditka
1966 Gale Sayers
1955 Len Ford

[HRBAKER]

What is a true rookie card?

[jefferyepayne]

Unless you are addicted to registry crack, consider any card from a players first year in the league (or year of first card image) to be his rookie card.

Some will also consider earlier cards from college or even HS to be their "true rookie" and/or pre-rookie cards ... each to their own!

jeff

[pgconboy]

Some main ones I am looking for:

Reggie White (1984 USFL preferred)
Jim Brown 1958 (PSA 3ish or better preferred)
Leroy Selmon 1977
Gale Sayers 1966
Len Ford 1955
Jack Christiansen 1952
Merlin Olsen 1964

Recent Players:
Julius Peppers 2002
Steve Smith 2001
Johnny Hekker 2014


Full list I am looking to buy:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[jefferyepayne]

Good work on that list, Peirce!

I would encourage you to consider adding pre-rookie cards to your spreadsheet as you might find it interesting to go after image of players that don't have a mainstream cards from their playing days.

I personally find it very distasteful that cards from the 1970s-80s (Touchdown, Fleer Immortals, etc.) are considered a rookie card for players who played decades and decades earlier. It me it makes more sense to pick a regional, team, postcard, etc. of a player from their playing days as their rookie card than some tribute set from decades later.

This is one of the reason I like to collect pre-rookie cards. Putting the registry craziness aside, I'd rather have a card of a player from their playing days even if the set isn't mainstream.

jeff

[Exhibitman]

Amen, Brother Jeff. My boxing HOF collection is career-contemporary issues only, unless there is simply nothing out there for a fighter, but I am always looking.

[pgconboy]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

I personally find it very distasteful that cards from the 1970s-80s (Touchdown, Fleer Immortals, etc.) are considered a rookie card for players who played decades and decades earlier. It me it makes more sense to pick a regional, team, postcard, etc. of a player from their playing days as their rookie card than some tribute set from decades later.

I agree regarding the 74-75 Immortals, TD Club etc. Not very exciting getting cards decades after the fact.

The problem is I have a tough time getting into post cards, team photos, and stuff. This obviously puts me in a bit of a bind as I love the classic football players and the history of the game but unable to collect an option that I am enthusiastic about.

Maybe I bite the bullet and get 1 of each (first football card and era correct memorabilia) and assume one grows on me haha.

Part of the reason for collecting these was that as a kid I would make all time teams for the major sports. Once I got some chore money I tried getting a card of the player to represent themselves on the team.

Eventually got a job and that moved into buying their rookie card and stumbled into a decent career which escalated into autograph rookies. While buying my team members I noticed some decent deals on HOFers that didn't quite make my teams which escalated into buying all HOF auto rookies.

Here are my All time Post WW2 NFL teams (CI is confidence interval, how strongly I feel about that player making the team)

https://imgur.com/a/9rxblhh

Red players are the guys I am missing auto rookies

edit - Eventually I plan on making a Pre-WW2 All time team.