What would you say to this fellow board member?

[1952boyntoncollector]

If not willing to out the person and just complain, i have to take what you said with a grain of salt. If you dropped a name then that person would likely defend himself.

So you just get to tell your side, which could very much be true, but you will never know if you are completely right or mostly right in the face of the collection community if the other side does not present their side if they disagree with you. What you define as easily understood discounts on your website/ebay for example may not be what he says. Plus perhaps there were passive aggressive threats going on both ways. Not saying its so but just saying..

[frankbmd]

Anomynity could be compromised on both sides of this dispute according to forum rules in bold print a the top of every page.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Anomynity could be compromised on both sides of this dispute according to forum rules in bold print a the top of every page.

Yeah pardon my crankiness but one person who doesn't give his name complaining about another unidentified member doesn't sit well with me.

[packs]

What could the other perspective be? I would never buy something for a price and then insist on paying something else after the fact. What would a reasonable justification be in this instance?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by packs

What could the other perspective be? I would never buy something for a price and then insist on paying something else after the fact. What would a reasonable justification be in this instance?

This fella seems to think he's some sort of "influencer", and should be compensated as such. Slightly disturbing.

Asking for a discount is not such a big deal, but throwing a temper tantrum that could hurt somebody else's business (or hobby) when you don't get it, instead of just walking away, is pretty sh*tty.

[Leon]

My biggest peeve on forums is anonymity when giving opinions or slamming a person or company. IF the OP outed the person ( I wish he would ) then his name would have to be made public too. I have already put several full names on the front page today, in posts, as those members apparently can't read the rule in bold at the top of every page.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Anomynity could be compromised on both sides of this dispute according to forum rules in bold print at the top of every page.

Originally Posted by Leon

My biggest peeve on forums is anonymity when giving opinions or slamming a person or company. IF the OP outed the person ( I wish he would ) then his name would have to be made public too. I have already put several full names on the front page today, in posts, as those members apparently can't read the rule in bold at the top of every page.

Duplicate post.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

My biggest peeve on forums is anonymity when giving opinions or slamming a person or company. IF the OP outed the person ( I wish he would ) then his name would have to be made public too. I have already put several full names on the front page today, in posts, as those members apparently can't read the rule in bold at the top of every page.

That is one of the biggest problems with the PSA message boards Leon. They got some grade "A" jerks over there. And I believe they are letting these banned members back onto the board. These guys have done terrible things to fellow hobbyists. And they all hide under the guise of anonymity. I could tell you some stories to make you say "what the ****".....

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah pardon my crankiness but one person who doesn't give his name complaining about another unidentified member doesn't sit well with me.

I totally agree, Peter.


by the way, the guy who posted immediately after you has the strange name of 'packs', but I've never had an issue with him.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I totally agree, Peter.


by the way, the guy who posted immediately after you has the strange name of 'packs', but I've never had an issue with him.

Packs is a good man, very passionate and knowledgeable about baseball and cards. Always good for lively and interesting discussions. I too wish he would share his name, but he must have his reasons for not doing so.

[999Tony]

From the perspective of an ebay buyer, but rarely a seller, and collecting novice:

Seems like stated intent of initial post in this thread was to get some feedback as to whether seller was being reasonable. Also seems like the actual problem was the buyer made some kind of error checking out and missing out on one of two discounts actually being offered. The rest of the stuff about wanting additional discounts, etc. doesn't seem to have been what caused the dispute (as irritating as it may have been ).

So the dispute comes down to --buyer wanted the two discounts seller actually offered, but made an error checking out. Seller apparently offered a compromise so buyer would get part of the extra second discount, but not the whole thing.

As an ebay buyer, I have had sellers who allowed me to retract an erroneous bid, and I have also had sellers who refused, leaving me with something I didn't want. I leave positive feedback for those who assist me. I don't leave negative feedback for those who don't, since I recognize I'm the idiot who didn't read the description carefully, or clicked in the wrong place, and I know I am responsible for following through with any bid I make. Though it is aggravating to get stuck with something I didn't want. (So far it's only been inexpensive items).

So the guy was way way out of line for negative feedback about a seller who actually worked with him, and who didn't do anything wrong. But as a buyer, I'd be annoyed if I clicked on the wrong button and missed out on a discount, and would think the seller should have given me what was offered. I probably wouldn't be keeping that seller on my saved seller list.

So that's my long winded two cents worth

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

If not willing to out the person and just complain, i have to take what you said with a grain of salt. If you dropped a name then that person would likely defend himself.

So you just get to tell your side, which could very much be true, but you will never know if you are completely right or mostly right in the face of the collection community if the other side does not present their side if they disagree with you. What you define as easily understood discounts on your website/ebay for example may not be what he says. Plus perhaps there were passive aggressive threats going on both ways. Not saying its so but just saying..

The other person could defend himself regardless whether he was named, if he wanted to do so. Naming him would almost force him to provide his side to it; otherwise his silence would speak volumes.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The other person could defend himself regardless whether he was named, if he wanted to do so. Naming him would almost force him to provide his side to it; otherwise his silence would speak volumes.

I dont buy that......no reason to defend yourself if not named.

it speaks volumes when someone lists what they say happened but does not give out any names. That way its easy for everyone just to agree with them and there will be no one to give the other side..

To me, if you are truly in the right, why not name names, especially if everyone agrees what the other person is so egregious and we want that type of action stopped....

Would be like saying 'i sold a card to a guy and he said if i dont give a 20% refund, he will invent things and tell everyone what a bad seller i was and is complaining to ebay etc.., i did deliver the card 2 days after I said i was but i gave him a great discount already and i offered him a return and would pay for shipping but he doesnt answer....did i do anything wrong and was it right for him to say he will say bad things about me?' (I also tried to email him to prevent me posting anything with no response)

What you think people are going to say to that.... easy to give all that info without naming names..and does nothing for the hobby because if there is a bad buyer out there, he is not being named so can continue with his actions.

[pokerplyr80]

I agree with Peter and Leon. These complaint threads that refuse to name who they're complaining about are ridiculous. Especially if it's another net54 member. Just spit out the name, let that person present his side, and it will generally become clear who was in the wrong. If you're not upset enough to name the other person then it's probably best to keep your thoughts to yourself.

[Republicaninmass]

I'd say you threatened me with being a net54 user, let's see what they have to say about your extortion tactics.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I agree with Peter and Leon. These complaint threads that refuse to name who they're complaining about are ridiculous. Especially if it's another net54 member. Just spit out the name, let that person present his side, and it will generally become clear who was in the wrong. If you're not upset enough to name the other person then it's probably best to keep your thoughts to yourself.

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