Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ggary

Just added this to my Lakers collection. The felt is soft and all of the yellow felt in the pennant is raised but not stitched on. It is also blue and gold instead of purple and gold. Was this probably made in the late 60's?

Yep, late 60s. Nice pick-up.

[ooo-ribay]

Can’t read the ruler. 29-30” or more like 24-25”?

[ggary]

It's about 26 1/2 inches long excluding its tassels.

[KrenBats]

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Please don’t take my word as gospel, but I don’t like it as 1930s.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I saw that on eBay and was indecisive. I leaned towards no good so I didn’t bid on it. The seller did have other vintage items that were good, but in the end I just couldn’t convince myself

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I'm no baseball pennant expert but I didn't like the stitching on the spine. I've seen a lot of repros with stitching like that. Plus, that's very white for 80+ years old.

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

That is a fantasy piece. Ebbets Field Flannel made pennants based off of 1937 BF3 mini pennant designs. Red Ball never made minor league full sized premium pennants. They either made these in the late 80s or early 90s.

[Bugsy]

Here are the original mini pennants. I have seen the Ebbets large pennants for at least 5 or so different teams from this set.

[Dodgerfan74]

My question is how do you know if its an authentic 1958 opening day of Dodger Stadium Pennant?
I saw the pennant on Offer Up. The person is asking $200.00 for it.

[effe]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

That is a fantasy piece. Ebbets Field Flannel made pennants based off of 1937 BF3 mini pennant designs. Red Ball never made minor league full sized premium pennants. They either made these in the late 80s or early 90s.

So is this a fantasy piece too? I saw it in person and it certainly appeared to have some age to it.


Full write-up on Borchertfield.com

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by effe

So is this a fantasy piece too? I saw it in person and it certainly appeared to have some age to it.


Full write-up on Borchertfield.com

No, that is a different design compared to the Brewers BF3.

[KrenBats]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks for the feedback everyone !

[perezfan]

At least your Brewers Pennant is authentic and of the era, as opposed to the other example.

Yours has proper aging, a correct spine and painted/screened graphics (as opposed to the tell-tale raised velvet).

Neat rare pennant!

[Bumpus Jones]

+1. Nothing to shake a stick at for sure...

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have no opinion on the authenticity of this pennant. But, I did want to address your question about the felt letters/graphics and the way some manufacturers affixed these to the body of the pennant. You are correct that most manufacturers would sew the letters on. This was commonplace through the 1920s and 30s until screened/painted designs became the norm.

BUT, there was at least one manufacturer that glued the letters to the body. If you're able to examine one of these pennants in person, it'll be fairly obvious that the letters are felt; but, on the reverse, there'll be no stitching outlining the spot where each letter sits.

I suspect this was done to lower production costs. Running a sewing machine takes time and and an experienced operator. Glue ... not so much.

I don't think this production method ever really caught on. For one, glue tends to crack when a pennant is waved back and forth. It also breaks down with time. It had to be cheaper to just screen print the lettering and be done with it.

[Fballguy]

Time to defibrillate this thread...CLEAR!!!!

This baby just sold on Ebay while listed as an International League minor league baseball pennant...However, I feel that's wrong. This pennant is made of 1960s material (the baseball Bears disappeared around 1949) which would make it a Newark Bears Continental Football League pennant. The spine and tassels also scream 1960s. Curious what others thought.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Time to defibrillate this thread...CLEAR!!!!

This baby just sold on Ebay while listed as an International League minor league baseball pennant...However, I feel that's wrong. This pennant is made of 1960s material (the baseball Bears disappeared around 1949) which would make it a Newark Bears Continental Football League pennant. The spine and tassels also scream 1960s. Curious what others thought.

Don’t know, Rob, but it’s a great pennant. What did it go for?

[Domer05]

Actually ... more like mid-1960s, before they moved into the Forum.