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Old 04-02-2019, 04:33 PM
tedzan tedzan is offline
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections, etc.....Tell us of your experiences upgrading T206's

Well, I guess "upgrading T206's" isn't too exciting a subject

Anyhow, here's one for you.…. try finding the red Cobb with a SOVEREIGN 460 back. Anyone on this forum who collects SOVEREIGN T206's will tell
you that this card is extremely difficult to find.

I completed my all - SOVEREIGN set in 2007 when I finally added Sov 460 Cobb to my set. Then it took me 8 years to upgrade my first Cobb (460).
And, although the new card is graded an "A", I am very pleased with it.



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I'm sure some of you have similar stories, how's about sharing them with us.


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Old 04-02-2019, 06:26 PM
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Ted,

This is my favorite thread on Net54. I have learned so much reading this thread.

Part of the allure of this set is the theories and "best guesses" as to why and how these cards were made. What cards came with what backs. What has been confirmed and what hasn't. Nobody has the exact answer and maybe nobody will. All we can do is conduct our best deductive reasoning.

I started the set in 2013 and on Thursday when the next 5 cards arrive, my number will be 395. My plan was to finish the set in 10 years so I am doing pretty well. I thought I would stop when I finished the set but now thinking I may see how many different cards (front/back combos) I can get. This set definitely has a very deep rabbit hole. LOL.

Mark
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Old 04-03-2019, 12:12 PM
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I actually haven't intentionally upgraded any of my T206's yet. I still have about 3500 more to go anyways. The very few I have upgraded was just from buying a card lot for one or two cards and then deciding if the others in that lot graded higher than my currently owned ones. Doesn't happen often. I'm 5 Polar Bears away from finishing that subset. Once I do that, there are a handful of Polar Bears I'll like to upgrade to a PSA 4 / SGC 50 type of grade.

As far as a Sovereign 460 Red Ty Cobb? lol, yea, maybe one day. I've been stuck at 50 out of 52 for at least 5 years now.
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Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:18 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections, etc.....Tell us of your experiences upgrading T206's

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Ted,

This is my favorite thread on Net54. I have learned so much reading this thread.

Part of the allure of this set is the theories and "best guesses" as to why and how these cards were made. What cards came with what backs. What has been confirmed and what hasn't. Nobody has the exact answer and maybe nobody will. All we can do is conduct our best deductive reasoning.

I started the set in 2013 and on Thursday when the next 5 cards arrive, my number will be 395. My plan was to finish the set in 10 years so I am doing pretty well. I thought I would stop when I finished the set but now thinking I may see how many different cards (front/back combos) I can get. This set definitely has a very deep rabbit hole. LOL.

Mark
Hey Mark

Your set is 77 % complete....I would be willing to bet you'll have a 520-card set by the end of this year.

And then, as those haunting lyrics in the song Hotel California say.... "You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave".

The T206 MONSTER has you !

But, that is not a bad thing. I've been collecting T206's for 40 years now; and, I am still sane. At least my family will attest to that


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Old 04-04-2019, 07:09 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections.....And then, there are times to down-grade your T206's

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Hey guys, anyone here interested in smoking a 108 year old American Beauty cigarette
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................. Some of the really difficult to find AB 460 cards in this sub-set .................



I acquired this AB 460 Cobb early in the game of starting an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 run.
I was tempted to crack it out and resubmit it to PSA, hoping for a Vg-Ex grade.

When I purchased this Cobb, it's pop report (PSA + SGC) data indicated only 4 examples.
I received a number of calls and emails asking me if I would sell it. I said absolutely not.






Some years later, this AB 460 Cobb (ungraded) was available. I purchased it with the thought in mind
to sell the 1st Cobb (which appeared to me to be a higher grade). So, I sold the 1st Cobb to a friend.


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And guess what ?
Contrary to my thinking, the 2nd Cobb graded the same as the 1st Cobb. Absolutely amazing !






I'm curious, how many of you consider down-grading some of your T206's ?


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Old 04-05-2019, 02:15 PM
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The down grading thought has never crossed my mind. Now if I had some PSA 8's, 9's, or 10's, then I'd more than likely down grade them to 4's. Top pop is less important to me and getting other cards I need is more important.
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Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
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Sovereign 460 50/52
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:14 PM
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The down grading thought has never crossed my mind. Now if I had some PSA 8's, 9's, or 10's, then I'd more than likely down grade them to 4's. Top pop is less important to me and getting other cards I need is more important.
Hi Ron

I learned this trick when I broke-up my 2nd T206 set (in order to assemble my all-PIEDMONT set). I had six T206 HOFers in that 2nd set that graded very high (7's and 8's).
By selling those gems, I was able to afford purchasing twenty HOFers and approx. 50 commons for my PIEDMONT set.
Like you, I'm a collector....not an "investor" in cardboard


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Old 04-06-2019, 07:20 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections.....And then, there are times to down-grade your T206's

As I have already said, if I am lucky enough to have a T206 which grades a 7, or 8, or 9, I don't hold onto it. Shucks, I cannot discern any difference between these cards, anyway.

My T206 collection ranges from Vg to Ex cards. And, I'm very happy with them. The greater majority of them are un-graded. Here are some examples of my highest graded T206's.


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