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Old 04-01-2019, 07:44 PM
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I have Overall. It happens to be the same exact one pictured in the group scan, and it is not like I have seen a bunch of these over the decades. It is a strong possibility that there are only one of each of these out there, making them possibly a prototypes (of a long lost game).

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Old 04-01-2019, 08:59 PM
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Andy,

I was the underbidder on the Chance & Baker. Thought I’d add them to my collection of “1”. As a previous poster mentioned, I always imagined they were torn off like matches for some type of raffle/drawing or as others have mentioned, for some type of game to be played (not necessarily a board game).

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Old 04-01-2019, 09:37 PM
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Just to point out that the Collins shown is also the exact one shown in the group lot in post #3, so still, as far as we know, these cards are all 1 of 1.

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Old 04-01-2019, 10:49 PM
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Brian, doc, Andy, esd, all good stuff. Nice to see so much energy being put into solving these possibly insoluble
not-quite-really-cards-and-what-the-hell-are-they.

Brian, we consulted some typographical experts as well, and, well, they're still not quite sure what the font is.
It very strongly resembles Caslon 540, we're told, but it's not a perfect match. In any case, the Caslon family
(dozens of increasingly modernized variations were developed over the years) dates back centuries, and
there was quite a revival of several variations of Caslon around 1900-1905, so we'll concede that the strips
could date back that far. Still doesn't mean they couldn't have been produced at a much more recent date, either.

We'll politely disagree on "commercially printed" and "machine cut" as certainties. A couple of us worked
for years in in-house graphics and printing operations, and we could easily have turned out a better-looking
result with little time and effort (granted, we had computerized copiers to facilitate some of the pre-press
work, which obviously wouldn't have been available to someone making these in 1910, if in fact
that's when they were made) -- but the basic procedures would have been the same, with just
a little more done-by-hand effort involved. And anyone with a metal straightedge and a razor
can cut a piece of cardstock well enough to make it appear appear machine-cut.

However, along with esd's reminder that these are printed front-and-back, the apparent presence of
a second Chance on one strip does suggest some attempt at multiple sets for distribution.
The notion that the strips were part of some prototype for a game that never actually went into production
is plausible. We just finished checking patents granted between 1908 and 1913, though, for games
that were in fact never manufactured, but none of them, unfortunately, involved any suggestion of
player-figures or markers of any kind for fielders or baserunners.

Damn, this is intriguing...
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The wear on the bottom reminds me of some pages ripped from a flip book.
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Bit of an update: the typeface has been identified pretty definitely as being "Recut Caslon," a Caslon variant
that's been in use since at least 1907. Which means, obviously, that the strips could indeed have been printed
in around 1910 -- although also at any time thereafter.

edit to add: we have the typography.guru forum to thank for that ID, particularly a contributor who goes by
"Greg Yerbury."
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Bit of an update: the typeface has been identified pretty definitely as being "Recut Caslon," a Caslon variant
that's been in use since at least 1907. Which means, obviously, that the strips could indeed have been printed
in around 1910 -- although also at any time thereafter.
Nice Butch. Thanks a lot for looking into this and identifying the font as being a possible font used in 1910. I'm still fascinated by these little cards and really appreciate everyone's input so far. I'd love to see more examples too if anyone else has any to share.
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