SGC bowing out

[Runscott]

Sorry, didn't mean to insult anyone who had carefully thought out an escape plan. I'm glad to hear things worked out in your example.

On the other hand, there are bad certified Ruth balls sitting on mantels all across the USA, and no one will ever be reimbursed for them.

[pawpawdiv9]

Saw this on Facebook:

SGC
4 hrs ·
OHIO SHOW LAST CHANCE FOR AUTOGRAPH SUBMISSIONS!!!

As of April 1st, SGC will no longer be accepting submissions for autograph authentication. Any orders we already have in-house will be completed and returned as normal. If you have a submission in-house and no longer wish to have the service completed, please contact Russel Crowell at russ@gosgc.com. Please see below for our last ever ON-SITE AUTOGRAPH AUTHENTICATION SPECIALS to be offered at the Ohio Sports Collectors Convention.

This decision will allow us to focus our full attention on card grading and uniform authentication moving forward. We also have many exciting new things on the horizon and cannot wait to introduce them to you in the near future. Stay tuned and thank you for the continued trust and support you have shown to SGC over the years!

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ON-SITE AUTOGRAPH SPECIALS

$7 STANDARD CERT SPECIAL
Submit 20 or more items for Standard Certification (4 signatures or less per item) regularly priced $25 or less at $7 per item.


$12 NON-SPORTS CERT SPECIAL
Submit 20 or more single-signed non-sports items for Standard Certification regularly priced $25 or less at $12 per item.


$35 MANTLE, DIMAGGIO, WILLIAMS SPECIAL
Submit items single-signed by Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio & Ted Williams for Premium Certification regularly priced $100 or less at $35 per item.

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OHIO SPORTS COLLECTOR CONVENTION

MARCH 29TH - 31ST, 2019

Holiday Inn Select
15471 Royalton Rd
Strongsville, OH 44136

3/29: 12:00pm - 8:00pm
3/30: 10:00am - 6:00pm
3/31: 10:00am - 4:00pm

http://www.ohiosportscollector.com/

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Saw this on Facebook:

SGC
4 hrs ·
OHIO SHOW LAST CHANCE FOR AUTOGRAPH SUBMISSIONS!!!

As of April 1st, SGC will no longer be accepting submissions for autograph authentication. Any orders we already have in-house will be completed and returned as normal. If you have a submission in-house and no longer wish to have the service completed, please contact Russel Crowell at russ@gosgc.com. Please see below for our last ever ON-SITE AUTOGRAPH AUTHENTICATION SPECIALS to be offered at the Ohio Sports Collectors Convention.

This decision will allow us to focus our full attention on card grading and uniform authentication moving forward. We also have many exciting new things on the horizon and cannot wait to introduce them to you in the near future. Stay tuned and thank you for the continued trust and support you have shown to SGC over the years!

---------------------------------

ON-SITE AUTOGRAPH SPECIALS

$7 STANDARD CERT SPECIAL
Submit 20 or more items for Standard Certification (4 signatures or less per item) regularly priced $25 or less at $7 per item.


$12 NON-SPORTS CERT SPECIAL
Submit 20 or more single-signed non-sports items for Standard Certification regularly priced $25 or less at $12 per item.


$35 MANTLE, DIMAGGIO, WILLIAMS SPECIAL
Submit items single-signed by Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio & Ted Williams for Premium Certification regularly priced $100 or less at $35 per item.

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OHIO SPORTS COLLECTOR CONVENTION

MARCH 29TH - 31ST, 2019

Holiday Inn Select
15471 Royalton Rd
Strongsville, OH 44136

3/29: 12:00pm - 8:00pm
3/30: 10:00am - 6:00pm
3/31: 10:00am - 4:00pm

http://www.ohiosportscollector.com/

Sounds like SGC will be GAI before PSA....nice going

[Case12]

Originally Posted by fuddjcal

sounds like sgc will be gai before psa....nice going

omg!

[Yastrzemski Sports]

I’ve always found Larry to be a guy I trust. As opposed to GAI who put out a bunch of garbage SGC hasn’t done that.

BTW - does anyone think $35 is a cut rate deal on Mantle Williams DiMaggio? What are the balls worth? 350-600. $35 seems like a fair price if not a little high.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

I’ve always found Larry to be a guy I trust. As opposed to GAI who put out a bunch of garbage SGC hasn’t done that.

BTW - does anyone think $35 is a cut rate deal on Mantle Williams DiMaggio? What are the balls worth? 350-600. $35 seems like a fair price if not a little high.

PSA charges $100 for a Mantle.

A Mantle ball uncerted will typically go for $300 - $350. A certed ball will sell for around $500. $35 seems like a very fair price IMO.

BTW, I agree that Larry is a good guy, a skilled authenticator and an asset to the hobby.

[Republicaninmass]

This cant be good, psa already over loaded

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Sorry, didn't mean to insult anyone who had carefully thought out an escape plan. I'm glad to hear things worked out in your example.

On the other hand, there are bad certified Ruth balls sitting on mantels all across the USA, and no one will ever be reimbursed for them.

What JSA or PSA/DNA certified Ruth balls that are currently sitting on mantels are worthless?

Again, regardless of what percentage of those you think are fake - 1% to 99% - the simple fact is they are still valuable today. Today - March 28, 2019 - you can still get "reimbursed."

The scary thing is when JSA or PSA/DNA go under, or start to not stand by their authentications. Your autograph collection is only as valuable as the credibility of the Third-Party Authenticator, or the willingness of collectors to purchase items without a certification.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Again, regardless of what percentage of those you think are fake - 1% to 99% - the simple fact is they are still valuable today. Today - March 28, 2019 - you can still get "reimbursed."

You are not alone in this collecting mentality - as long as they are "valuable" then it doesn't matter whether or not they are authentic.

I'll bow out of this, as you and I have completely different ethics about collecting and neither will change the other's mind.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You are not alone in this collecting mentality - as long as they are "valuable" then it doesn't matter whether or not they are authentic.

I'll bow out of this, as you and I have completely different ethics about collecting and neither will change the other's mind.

I'd be curious to know more about your ethics. I only purchase autographed cards that I believe to be real. By purchasing them with an LOA, I protect myself from mistakes, but only to the extent that the LOA is still worth reimbursement - either in a resale situation, or in a reimbursement context.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You are not alone in this collecting mentality - as long as they are "valuable" then it doesn't matter whether or not they are authentic.

I'll bow out of this, as you and I have completely different ethics about collecting and neither will change the other's mind.

There was an 'investment' thread on the main board, and I'll tell you that the best longterm investment involves buying an item that is authentic.

Authenticity is strictly a matter of fact, and not determined by today's poll or popularity contest or market value(though there often is a correlation). And, as the saying goes, the truth eventually comes out. Hobby history is full of corrections, factual revelations and continuing research-- often on these Net54 boards.