Grading and tilt / diamond cuts

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

The MC qualifier is for cards that have part of the adjoining card showing on it or is so severely off-center that there is almost no border to speak of.

I've seen literally thousands of diamond cut cards with MC qualifiers. Does this card deserve the MC qualifier? Why or why not? My answer is no, it does not deserve the MC qualifier.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Topps-...8AAOSwk4hcfaAc

[swarmee]

Look at the back; there is no border on the back side. That's why it got the MC qualifier, as well as showing part of the adjoining card. That is a textbook MC. There are some issues where they are a little more forgiving, like 1955 Bowman, where the front and back were almost always slightly misaligned.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Look at the back; there is no border on the back side. That's why it got the MC qualifier, as well as showing part of the adjoining card. That is a textbook MC.

I see what you're seeing, but I disagree that it's deserving of a MC qualifier. MC means miscut. That card is not miscut, it is a misprint. The back of the sheet wasn't printed to line up with the front of the sheet (or the front of the sheet wasn't printed to line up with the back of the sheet - however you want to look at it). In other words, if you're saying it's miscut, then how could it have been cut differently to avoid the issue? It couldn't have because it has nothing to do with the cutting process. It's has everything to do with the printing process. If PSA wants to qualify it, they should use the PD (print defect) qualifier, not the MC qualifier. Now if the front matched the back, then we're talking about a MC, but the front is pretty well centered - aa printing issue, not a cutting issue.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I see what you're seeing, but I disagree that it's deserving of a MC qualifier. MC means miscut. That card is not miscut, it is a misprint. The back of the sheet wasn't printed to line up with the front of the sheet

I know what you are saying, this is very common with vintage cards. The front is 80/20 one way, but the back somehow is perfectly centered? I don’t think PSA accounts for this. Yes, it is a misprint, and as a necessary byproduct of removing the card from a full sheet, it is going to be either OC or MC depending on how severe the issue is. Honestly I would kind of agree with them that it’s wise not to make it more complicated with the qualifier. Technically that would be a “misaligned” sheet. It would do nothing but confuse collectors who already are often woefully misinformed on the specifics behind even the centering qualifier - even more.




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