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Old 03-06-2019, 05:27 PM
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What does paper that old feel like? Sometimes that's my favorite thing about antiquities. The way they feel and smell.
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Old 03-06-2019, 06:14 PM
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[QUOTE=packs;1860547]What does paper that old feel like? Sometimes that's my favorite thing about antiquities. The way they feel and smell.[/QU

Honestly I just recieved it today and I am scared to touch it. Debating on weather I should frame it or send it to PSA to encapsulate. I have seen several of these over the years encapsulated by them for protection. Anyone have a sugestion on how I should protect/display on occasion???
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:14 PM
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What does paper that old feel like? Sometimes that's my favorite thing about antiquities. The way they feel and smell.[/QU

Honestly I just recieved it today and I am scared to touch it. Debating on weather I should frame it or send it to PSA to encapsulate. I have seen several of these over the years encapsulated by them for protection. Anyone have a sugestion on how I should protect/display on occasion???
I would NOT encapsulate this in one of their plastic tombs. If I were to encase it in anything it would be in mylar. It is something you could do yourself but if you are not comfortable with that I would guess that a professional restorer would be able to do it for you. If you wish to read about using mylar you could probably visit the website of University Products or Light Impressions. Both companies produce products for archival storage and sell great products that I have used.
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:38 PM
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Nice piece. I showed one of these in 2015 and a few here thought that mine was not in the hand of Hancock but rather the person listed at the bottom. When comparing to yours, I think it's fairly obvious that yours and mine were done by the same person (see the descriptions of the pott ash, of the shipper, of Harrison Barnard, and the date at the bottom particularly the 17). So unless Jon Freeman, the master on yours, and James Scott, the master on mine, (who the consensus said filled out the whole document on mine) was the same peep , I think we did ok.

I did end up having mine slabbed too by Beckett/JSA, looks pretty nice in the slab. I don't have it at this house so I can't take a pic but if I find any on my phone I'll post it so you can see what it looks like in the slab.

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and here's the thread from 2015 if you want to take a gander,

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=202457
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Nice piece. I showed one of these in 2015 and a few here thought that mine was not in the hand of Hancock but rather the person listed at the bottom. When comparing to yours, I think it's fairly obvious that yours and mine were done by the same person (see the descriptions of the pott ash, of the shipper, of Harrison Barnard, and the date at the bottom particularly the 17). So unless Jon Freeman, the master on yours, and James Scott, the master on mine, (who the consensus said filled out the whole document on mine) was the same peep , I think we did ok.

I did end up having mine slabbed too by Beckett/JSA, looks pretty nice in the slab. I don't have it at this house so I can't take a pic but if I find any on my phone I'll post it so you can see what it looks like in the slab.

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Mike, sometimes it's like reading code getting through one of these threads. But it's good that guys like you and Chris added some validity to it. Mike deserves that after landing a nice piece like this.
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Nice piece. I showed one of these in 2015 and a few here thought that mine was not in the hand of Hancock but rather the person listed at the bottom. When comparing to yours, I think it's fairly obvious that yours and mine were done by the same person (see the descriptions of the pott ash, of the shipper, of Harrison Barnard, and the date at the bottom particularly the 17). So unless Jon Freeman, the master on yours, and James Scott, the master on mine, (who the consensus said filled out the whole document on mine) was the same peep , I think we did ok.

I did end up having mine slabbed too by Beckett/JSA, looks pretty nice in the slab. I don't have it at this house so I can't take a pic but if I find any on my phone I'll post it so you can see what it looks like in the slab.

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Mike did you go back and re-read the posts? I was all over the post. It was that post that made me want to get one of these. Yes I want to see it for sure. Do you display it or keep it tucked away?
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:55 PM
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Michael, I don't currently have it on display, but I do display it occasionally. I have limited room so I tend to rotate pieces for display. My wife doesn't mind me having one room dedicated to autographs so I don't push my luck with overflow lol.

I'm not adverse to displaying "old" pieces. I bought them for myself, not to preserve for someone I don't know 200 years from now. I do have blackout curtains in the room though to keep out the sunlight.

Heck, I currently have on display a signed document from 1492 signed by Ferdinand and Isabella slabbed up, and it works itself through the rotation just like the rest of my stuff and none of them look worse for wear.

I'll try to run by my bank safe deposit box within a week and get the Hancock out and take some pics for you to show you what it looks like in a slab.

Yep, I remembered you defending my piece in that old thread from 2015, thank you, that's why I posted in yours.

It was pointless for me to try to defend mine back then as individuals already had their mind made up, and I didn't feel compelled to respond as I really didn't have the time to play on the boards much between law school at night and work during the day. Arguing with people was not the way I wanted to spend my few minutes I had to browse and look so I just let it be.

Enjoy your piece, I'll post some pics within a week provided I have the chance to run by there. I have a slew of cases on the court docket for March 18 so I MIGHT not get a chance to run by until after that, but I will try

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Here's a poor quality pic I had saved on my hard drive.
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Nice piece. I showed one of these in 2015 and a few here thought that mine was not in the hand of Hancock but rather the person listed at the bottom. When comparing to yours, I think it's fairly obvious that yours and mine were done by the same person (see the descriptions of the pott ash, of the shipper, of Harrison Barnard, and the date at the bottom particularly the 17). So unless Jon Freeman, the master on yours, and James Scott, the master on mine, (who the consensus said filled out the whole document on mine) was the same peep , I think we did ok.

I did end up having mine slabbed too by Beckett/JSA, looks pretty nice in the slab. I don't have it at this house so I can't take a pic but if I find any on my phone I'll post it so you can see what it looks like in the slab.

Mike
The ship on your manifest was named after his Uncle Thomas wife Lydia.
Here is a nice article about the historic significance of that ship...Pretty cool you own such a documented historical piece of our American history!!!

http://www.newenglandhistoricalsocie...starts-a-riot/

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Thanks!!! I think I see the direction I want to go!!!
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I store my Houdini letter in mylar to keep it from getting brittle. It's worked out for me but my letter's only 100 years old haha.
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