Did I just discover that the Topps Dice Game cards are from 1963 instead of 1961?

[frankhardy]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I believe Bob pointed out that many of the dice game cards have the same images as the small black and white shots on the 1960 Topps cards. I checked that the Mantle in fact does, but the Maz does not. The Groat appears to be the same except as the op pointed out the "Pirates" whited out and the logo on the hat changed. Not sure what it all means, but this sure is interesting.

I went back and looked at the 2015/2016 thread. I saw where most of the 1960 Topps inset pictures matched up. Frank Robinson did not. I also saw where Dave suspected a 1962 or 1963 production because of the 1962 All Star game, but then Larry pointed out that Bill White and Tony Kubek did not make that team.

[hcv123]

I am having trouble accessing the MHCC site, but it would appear there would be little other explanation for Groat having a Cardinals logo on his cap than the Groat card was done in 1963.

The write up states that there are pen markings on some of the cards - what about the possibility they were originally printed in 1961 and then revisited in 62 or 63?

[sflayank]

1963 it is
good catch...i just looked
im surprised larry fritsch didnt catch. checklist came from his uncut sheets
16 players were in the 62 all star games
why kubek and white were included unknown
not only is P airbrushed but pirates across chest is airbrushed out

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by sflayank

1963 it is
good catch...i just looked
im surprised larry fritsch didnt catch. checklist came from his uncut sheets
16 players were in the 62 all star games
why kubek and white were included unknown
not only is P airbrushed but pirates across chest is airbrushed out

Kubek and White both had killer years in 1962 and should have made the AS team.

[brian1961]

In 1962, Bobby Richardson also had his career year at the plate, as well as his career-defining amazing catch of Willie McCovey's scorching blue dart that saved and ended the '62 World Series.

Furthermore, the inclusion of Don Drysdale came after his career-best 25-9. In '60 Big D was not much over .500.

---Brian Powell

[brian1961]

Going from memory, Willie Mays, Frank Robinson, and Camilio Pasquel all had banner years in 1962, and were included in the Topps Dice Game.

Also, it may not be too important, but 1963 was the year after Stratematic Baseball had debuted their highly-successful and popular baseball board game that heavily involved the use of dice. Perhaps Topps decided its puny offering could not compete, OR, Stratematic got wind of it, and had a heated phone chat with the folks at Topps.

---Brian Powell