Addie Joss Jersey card on Ebay

[steve B]

Originally Posted by itslarry

If people hate it so much why don't they just buy it themselves?
Biased on the collections here there are plenty of rich people that could afford it and then donate it themselves.
Topps is a company, they buy things to make money, not preserve because no one else is wants to step up.
I'd rather own a piece then some old dude have it locked away in his collection to never see the light of day.

But to each there own.

I'm hardly rich, but I picked up a few nice items over the last 40 years.

I'm totally against this sort of card, with the a few exceptions. Like a bat or jersey of a current player where they can use it once, call it game used and move on to another. Or if the original item is in truly horrible condition. Like maybe someone hemmed Joss pants for a minor leaguer and saved the cut off bits.


The whole "it lets many people have a chance at owning a scrap of something historical" is just a bad joke of an excuse. If you believe in it, cut something from your collection up into enough scraps to send one to each member glue them to a card and mail them out.

[Leon]

I am with you on this. The other thing is there has been some major fraud with different "pieces of" cards. Never been a fan of them but to each their own, I guess.

Originally Posted by steve B

I'm hardly rich, but I picked up a few nice items over the last 40 years.

I'm totally against this sort of card, with the a few exceptions. Like a bat or jersey of a current player where they can use it once, call it game used and move on to another. Or if the original item is in truly horrible condition. Like maybe someone hemmed Joss pants for a minor leaguer and saved the cut off bits.


The whole "it lets many people have a chance at owning a scrap of something historical" is just a bad joke of an excuse. If you believe in it, cut something from your collection up into enough scraps to send one to each member glue them to a card and mail them out.

[The Nasty Nati]

Looks like a ton of Joss jerseys are listed on ebay. We could piece the pants back to gather.

[CobbSpikedMe]

I like the jersey cards of modern players. They're really the only modern stuff that I like. I just think they are pretty cool cards. But, like many of you, I don't like that they cut up Babe Ruth jerseys and Ty Cobb bats. Those are limited supply items. I'd much rather know someone has a full Ruth jersey in their collection than have little pieces cut up in a bunch of cards. I don't even like the idea of someone taking their own collection and cutting up pieces to share with others.

[Leon]

I wouldn't be as against modern players jerseys being cut as there are quite a few, generally speaking.

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

I like the jersey cards of modern players. They're really the only modern stuff that I like. I just think they are pretty cool cards. But, like many of you, I don't like that they cut up Babe Ruth jerseys and Ty Cobb bats. Those are limited supply items. I'd much rather know someone has a full Ruth jersey in their collection than have little pieces cut up in a bunch of cards. I don't even like the idea of someone taking their own collection and cutting up pieces to share with others.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Interesting topic. I was curious as to what most hard core vintage collectors thought of "memorabilia cards" of pre-war players. I definitely can understand the viewpoint that they are basically destroying important artifacts in order to produce these cards.

But personally, I like them...because I think they allow me to experience a connection to these players that I otherwise could not.

I don't own many vintage cards, and I don't own many memorabilia cards. However I do own a modern card (2001) that has a piece of Babe Ruth's bat....and I love it. My logic breaks down like this:

1. I think pretty much 100% of us could agree that we prefer authenticate vintage cards to reprints, right? An authentic 1933 Goudey card of Babe Ruth provides more value and joy to me as a collector than a reprint of that same card...even though it has the exact same picture. Why? Because a 1933 Goudey card was created and pulled out of a pack of gum during the exact same time that Babe Ruth himself was playing. There is a "connection" there to the Babe, the time, the place. That's cool.

2. So to me, the same thing applies to a card that has a small piece of his bat. That card contains an actual piece of lumber that Babe used to swing and maybe hit home runs with. That bat card provides me a "connection" to the Babe, the time, the place.

Would I prefer to have an actual bat instead of just a piece? Obviously. But a Ruth bat would cost me $100,000. The bat card? i got it for about $100 bucks. I keep it in a magnetic holder so I can easily take it out, and touch the bat piece.

These memorabilia cards allow us to physically interact with the uniforms and equipment of our favorite old players without spending the big bucks necessary to buy a full item, and often times the price is a fraction of what even an authentic vintage card would be...and to me, that's pretty cool.

I know most of you don't like shiny new cards, but I'm gonna put a picture of it here anyway

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[packs]

Every single one of these cards should come with provenance from how it was acquired. There is no doubt that the card companies create these cards for chase purposes, otherwise why would a box be advertised as having them in it? Therefore, since the sale is predicated on the memorabilia being authentic, the card companies should include purchase information for the authenticity of the materials.

[Leon]

I am against cutting up Ruth bats, due to the history I feel we lose, but I can't blame anyone for collecting them. Although, if no one bought them there wouldn't be a market. So there is that. I do like the aesthetics of that Ruth chippings card.

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

Interesting topic. I was curious as to what most hard core vintage collectors thought of "memorabilia cards" of pre-war players. I definitely can understand the viewpoint that they are basically destroying important artifacts in order to produce these cards.

But personally, I like them...because I think they allow me to experience a connection to these players that I otherwise could not.

I don't own many vintage cards, and I don't own many memorabilia cards. However I do own a modern card (2001) that has a piece of Babe Ruth's bat....and I love it. My logic breaks down like this:

1. I think pretty much 100% of us could agree that we prefer authenticate vintage cards to reprints, right? An authentic 1933 Goudey card of Babe Ruth provides more value and joy to me as a collector than a reprint of that same card...even though it has the exact same picture. Why? Because a 1933 Goudey card was created and pulled out of a pack of gum during the exact same time that Babe Ruth himself was playing. There is a "connection" there to the Babe, the time, the place. That's cool.

2. So to me, the same thing applies to a card that has a small piece of his bat. That card contains an actual piece of lumber that Babe used to swing and maybe hit home runs with. That bat card provides me a "connection" to the Babe, the time, the place.

Would I prefer to have an actual bat instead of just a piece? Obviously. But a Ruth bat would cost me $100,000. The bat card? i got it for about $100 bucks. I keep it in a magnetic holder so I can easily take it out, and touch the bat piece.

These memorabilia cards allow us to physically interact with the uniforms and equipment of our favorite old players without spending the big bucks necessary to buy a full item, and often times the price is a fraction of what even an authentic vintage card would be...and to me, that's pretty cool.

I know most of you don't like shiny new cards, but I'm gonna put a picture of it here anyway

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