How rare would a stack of 1921 Herpolsheimer's be? Including Babe. Just wondering :)

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Atari

Me, Babe Ruth, and his 38 friends from the band-aid can? I guess I write"we" occasionally here as I am assisting another party (my uncle) help spread the word that this collection exists and the cards from it may be for sale.... soon.

Got it, thanks.

[Atari]

PSA lists that they have seen one Ruth from this series:

https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...sheimers/40209


Do they have an image of it somewhere? How does that work? Or it's just graded by PSA and sitting in someones private collection somewhere?

[swarmee]

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...sheimers/40209
The only ones PSA would have images of are the ones that have sold at auction that they're tracking through Auction Prices Realized or if people upload them to their website for a Set Registry. Maybe in an old SMR magazine article if someone allowed them to be photographed.
Other places to check: worthpoint, Sports Collectors Daily, PWCC marketplace, VCP, Google, etc.

[ValKehl]

Atari, nice find. As others have said, your Herps-Ruth card will fetch big $$. However, even though your group includes several other HOFers, I think you may be surprised as to how few $$ the other Herps cards will fetch. I say this because (1) 1921 Herps cards are too scarce for a collector to attempt to complete a set of them - scarcity often works against a card's value, (2) there are several other, identical, but scarcer 1921 issues - e.g., Leader Theatre, Haffner's Bread, Gassler's Bread, Clark's Bread, etc. that don't sell for all that much, and (3) most pre-War collectors (but not me) prefer the very colorful cards created by artists to the real-photo, black & white cards.

BTW, I'm thrilled to see that your find does not include a WaJo card, as I love having 1-of-1 cards. On the other hand, I'm saddened to note that your find includes a Sam Rice card. Oh well, one can't win them all!

[Atari]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Atari, nice find. As others have said, your Herps-Ruth card will fetch big $$. However, even though your group includes several other HOFers, I think you may be surprised as to how few $$ the other Herps cards will fetch. I say this because (1) 1921 Herps cards are too scarce for a collector to attempt to complete a set of them - scarcity often works against a card's value, (2) there are several other, identical, but scarcer 1921 issues - e.g., Leader Theatre, Haffner's Bread, Gassler's Bread, Clark's Bread, etc. that don't sell for all that much, and (3) most pre-War collectors (but not me) prefer the very colorful cards created by artists to the real-photo, black & white cards.

BTW, I'm thrilled to see that your find does not include a WaJo card, as I love having 1-of-1 cards. On the other hand, I'm saddened to note that your find includes a Sam Rice card. Oh well, one can't win them all!

Hey ValKehl - Thanks for your note. You make some good points there. Hard to tell what they might go for these days. Glad I didn't uptick your WaJo, but as far as the Sam Rice goes (E.C. Rice?)... maybe you'll wind up with 2 of 2? That would be almost as cool as having 1 of 1.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Atari

Hey ValKehl - Thanks for your note. You make some good points there. Hard to tell what they might go for these days. Glad I didn't uptick your WaJo, but as far as the Sam Rice goes (E.C. Rice?)... maybe you'll wind up with 2 of 2? That would be almost as cool as having 1 of 1.

Yes, HOFer Edgar Charles Rice is better known as Sam Rice.

[glchen]

Wow, cool, that's an awesome find! I love seeing new cards like this coming out.

[Atari]

Originally Posted by swarmee

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...sheimers/40209
The only ones PSA would have images of are the ones that have sold at auction that they're tracking through Auction Prices Realized or if people upload them to their website for a Set Registry. Maybe in an old SMR magazine article if someone allowed them to be photographed.
Other places to check: worthpoint, Sports Collectors Daily, PWCC marketplace, VCP, Google, etc.

Thanks for the tips! So far no luck finding that other Ruth anywhere other than the PSA listing. Would be nice if they had more detail on it like when it was last seen/graded.

[swarmee]

One trick you can try is to find the cert numbers of the other cards you have found, like in the APR page on PSA's website. Then with the cert number of a known card from the set, you can type in nearby numbers to see if it was submitted with other from the set at the same time. I remember cert numbers starting with 90,000,000 and ones around 11,000,000 from the couple I spotted last night. Once you've found those, you can figure out which year it was submitted by finding modern cards that were submitted around the same cert numbers. It's a little tedious, but there is a workaround.