How rare would a stack of 1921 Herpolsheimer's be? Including Babe. Just wondering :)

[Atari]

I am going to reach out to PSA, SGC, BGS next week to see if any of them are interested in grading the lot. Do you think one of them would do it free of charge? I'd think the bragging (and marketing) rights to be the first registry to see, grade, and list these is worth something?

[Jobu]

Ahhh, no. They will all be happy to grade them for you, but PSA is going to charge you between $3,000 (card value $25,000-$100,000) to $5,000 (value $100,000+) for just the Ruth.

Originally Posted by Atari

I am going to reach out to PSA, SGC, BGS next week to see if any of them are interested in grading the lot. Do you think one of them would do it free of charge? I'd think the bragging (and marketing) rights to be the first registry to see, grade, and list these is worth something?

[Atari]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Ahhh, no. They will all be happy to grade them for you, but PSA is going to charge you between $3,000 (card value $25,000-$100,000) to $5,000 (value $100,000+) for just the Ruth.

Hard to judge the value of a good one-of-a-kind industry press release

Which of the 3 major services can currently issue a press release with nicely edited youtube video of them grading this lot? Would you watch that video?

[swarmee]

You're the kind of guy who calls the bet in a poker game, let's everyone else reveal their cards, and says: "Damn. I only have two pair. Sixes and sixes." GLWS.

[Atari]

Originally Posted by swarmee

You're the kind of guy who calls the bet in a poker game, let's everyone else reveal their cards, and says: "Damn. I only have two pair. Sixes and sixes." GLWS.

quad 6's better and less evil than trips.

[Atari]

Originally Posted by swarmee

You're the kind of guy who calls the bet in a poker game, let's everyone else reveal their cards, and says: "Damn. I only have two pair. Sixes and sixes." GLWS.

Apologies there. Back in office again so I can reply.... obviously the backs were the most important - to see that they are indeed herps! So in order to better authenticate that I was posting in real time, in possession, etc. I wanted to wait for someone to ask for the backs so I could print the page (of them asking) & display them in the manner that I did.

The list I was initially reluctant to include in the first post as I said because there is some value in the "mystery" in not knowing which previous 1-of-1's have become 1-of-2's, which new 1-of-1's are out there, etc. Something I was considering to save for an auction house catalog to reveal. At the end of the day, only one company will get to do that anyway, so not that big of a loss, and better to get the list out there early so people can consider what may be coming to market soon/eventually.

I guess we'll save the rest of that mystery for the conditions of each card -- which can eventually be seen exclusively on the graders registry of whoever we wind up working with. Sadly, the Ruth isn't the best card in the deck, but thankfully far from the worst.

Cheers!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Atari

I wanted to wait for someone to ask for the backs so I could print the page (of them asking) & display them in the manner that I did.

Those kind of behaviors just set off my scammer goosebumps, nearly as much as "I don't have time," "Selling as reprint," and "God bless."
It's good that you have the real thing, with a back story, and are going to help your uncle derive the best resale value for the collection. Maybe you're not used to posting on collecting message boards, but you set off a bunch of the flags, maybe not meaning to, maybe because you were relishing the reveal too much.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Those kind of behaviors just set off my scammer goosebumps, nearly as much as "I don't have time," "Selling as reprint," and "God bless."
It's good that you have the real thing, with a back story, and are going to help your uncle derive the best resale value for the collection. Maybe you're not used to posting on collecting message boards, but you set off a bunch of the flags, maybe not meaning to, maybe because you were relishing the reveal too much.

Not the best presentation.

[Atari]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Those kind of behaviors just set off my scammer goosebumps, nearly as much as "I don't have time," "Selling as reprint," and "God bless."
It's good that you have the real thing, with a back story, and are going to help your uncle derive the best resale value for the collection. Maybe you're not used to posting on collecting message boards, but you set off a bunch of the flags, maybe not meaning to, maybe because you were relishing the reveal too much.

Sorry again.. it's a game-changing reveal (at least for the E121's and Herpolsheimer's specifically). I only began to learn about how rare these possibly were in the past 24-36 hours myself. At little exciting when you start to realize what you have. Sure it's not one of the many Ruth RC's out there - but very rare in its own right and pretty awesome considering the lot as a whole.

Too bad about the other one. I've wasn't able to find it. Is it one of those from the lot where they all had the pencil marks on them? If so, I guess this 1921 Herpolsheimer Ruth has the fact that it has never been altered going for it - even if it winds up in slightly lower condition.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Atari

Hard to judge the value of a good one-of-a-kind industry press release

Which of the 3 major services can currently issue a press release with nicely edited youtube video of them grading this lot? Would you watch that video?

Just my opinion but they grade cards of that value and much more fairly regularly. It wouldn't make any sense for them to give their product(grading) away for free.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Just my opinion but they grade cards of that value and much more fairly regularly. It wouldn't make any sense for them to give their product(grading) away for free.

It might for Beckett to advertise their BVG Vintage segment; they graded the newly discovered Mascot Dog Food Mantle when PSA passed. Or for SGC to rollout their new automated scan process and registry.

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by Atari

Hard to judge the value of a good one-of-a-kind industry press release

Which of the 3 major services can currently issue a press release with nicely edited youtube video of them grading this lot? Would you watch that video?

I work in the industry and the press would not be as valuable as you might think. The major card companies have a huge backlog so they are not hurting for business. If you found a new grading company looking to make a splash, maybe, but they would not enhance the value to the degree of the big three.