T206 Honus Wagner - Not For Sale

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

I certianly agree with your subtle humor and slight towards the situation but I also believe you made the opposite point as well.

How many are 'potential'? Let's be honest. Almost for certian 0 of everyone.

I believe that most of the questions are not from interested buyers. They are simply people interested or people that have nothing better to do than to try to poke holes in the person's story.

I can understand how that is burdensome when you have such an interesting item and you have stuff to do. I have definitely tried to sell things and been bombarded with increased activity from sources I was certain would never pan out. Especially if the motivation to sell is low. You want people that are qualified, interested and capable only.

It is unfair to question the level of motivation of the seller.
My guess is that it's a new experience for the seller.

[ullmandds]

here you go gentlemen!

[ullmandds]

slightly better?

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

slightly better?

No. Looks to me like the same scan from earlier enlarged. If it's not high-res from the get go, it never will be just manipulating the first image.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

I certianly agree with your subtle humor and slight towards the situation but I also believe you made the opposite point as well.

How many are 'potential'? Let's be honest. Almost for certian 0 of everyone.

I believe that most of the questions are not from interested buyers. They are simply people interested or people that have nothing better to do than to try to poke holes in the person's story.

I can understand how that is burdensome when you have such an interesting item and you have stuff to do. I have definitely tried to sell things and been bombarded with increased activity from sources I was certain would never pan out. Especially if the motivation to sell is low. You want people that are qualified, interested and capable only.

It is unfair to question the level of motivation of the seller.
My guess is that it's a new experience for the seller.

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

I don't know what to make of you not getting it.

Surely you can see the argument in my statement, right?

Is it that you just don't believe there may be a less than overly ambitious Wagner owner on his Ps and Qs that wants every bit of attention he can get for his listing?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

I don't know what to make of you not getting it.

Surely you can see the argument in my statement, right?

Is it that you just don't believe there may be a less than overly ambitious Wagner owner on his Ps and Qs that wants every bit of attention he can get for his listing?

To my mind it's pretty hard to casually and indifferently list a Wagner and just get annoyed by questions because the questions are from tire kickers anyhow. But maybe. Then again he had the same attitude about a substantially less pricey Jordan collection. People were annoying him with questions.

[jchcollins]

This whole thread is most amusing to me. Are you kidding? No, I don't have the money to buy that card. If it were bought by a card company and chopped into a million pieces to make memorabilia cards out of, I wouldn't have enough money to buy even THAT card.

But my aproach was kind of like I post a lot here, and you are going to have to suffer my opinions and questions, lol...Sorry.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

The card is not for sale I apologize

[pawpawdiv9]

A tip in posting pics:
I use this trick-- [img]XXXX[/img]
Most times it will put a large pic in the message. Just past the image where i put the X's.
Maybe it helps or it doesnt, but may help others here too.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

I love the questions and I will do my best to answer them. But its like if I dont respond instantly you call me a scammer, a liar, this is not legit. Like man, I work for a super well respected company. GottaHaveIt!. We've been in business for 25+ years. I am just the middle man trying to share our items and we are looking to sell. In fact, the card would be graded a 4 if it didnt have the alter tag on it. Thats why the asking price is higher, because you are getting a super great card for a discounted price. A PSA 4 Wagner goes for 2 million+ you know.

Understand that many people here are more used to lauging over amusing stories of fake Wagners that people are trying to sell on eBay than we are having a legit, PSA authenticated one offered to us for sale in our own forum. So at a minimum it's odd and you are going to get odd, pointed, and tongue-in-cheek questions. Those that I did see that were not bad jokes were people asking legit questions as to the current slab status of the card, asking for scans, and things like that. Who called you a liar?

That card is not a PSA 4 in a million years. The corners are beyond rounded, they are rounded off. Corners on a 4 can be moderately worn, but nowhere near that bad. Also may be worth pointing out that earlier in this thread you said the card was a PSA 2? Uh.....which is it? There is of course going to be a ton of $ value difference between those grades on any legit copy of the most valuable card in the world being sold - but you knew that right?

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

I love the questions and I will do my best to answer them. But its like if I dont respond instantly you call me a scammer, a liar, this is not legit. Like man, I work for a super well respected company. GottaHaveIt!. We've been in business for 25+ years. I am just the middle man trying to share our items and we are looking to sell. In fact, the card would be graded a 4 if it didnt have the alter tag on it. Thats why the asking price is higher, because you are getting a super great card for a discounted price. A PSA 4 Wagner goes for 2 million+ you know.

I hate to break it to you. No way that card grades a 4 unless it's in a BCCG slab. I do wish you luck on the sale.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

In fact, the card would be graded a 4 if it didnt have the alter tag on it. Thats why the asking price is higher, because you are getting a super great card for a discounted price. A PSA 4 Wagner goes for 2 million+ you know.

You're confusing facts with ignorant opinions...

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

+1.

If this were a major auction house offering that card, it would have detailed high-res scans and a nice write-up. The description we got - at least at first - would probably not hold up to some of the '55 Bowman commons I sold on eBay last year.

[RedsFan1941]

welcome to the net54 tire kickers convention

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

welcome to the net54 tire kickers convention

Exactly. I don't believe the seller is interested in spending his time explaining tires to people that kick them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

Exactly. I don't believe the seller is interested in spending his time explaining tires to people that kick them.

And he knows who here has the money and who doesn't how?

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And he knows who here has the money and who doesn't how?

Does he need to, "Man"?

Anyone with a small amount of reasoning logic can deduce that 99 percent of the population can't afford the card and he is getting enough attention to simply know that most people asking him questions are not buyers. Even if they were, would they be on here dropping public messages about how much coin they may drop on a single card?

That is common sense. No need to posture further and dive into the minutia that is irrelevant.

We are all guilty of commenting and asking questions on a thread(this one) that we are not going to be buyers on. Maybe the right place is on the general forum topic and not in his BST thread.

[MichelaiTorres83]

Ok. Poll. How many people here have the money to buy the card?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

Ok. Poll. How many people here have the money to buy the card?

No one that has the money would answer your poll. I don't, btw.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

+1.

If this were a major auction house offering that card, it would have detailed high-res scans and a nice write-up. The description we got - at least at first - would probably about match up to some of the '55 Bowman commons I sold on eBay last year.

The card is not for sale I apologize