T206 Honus Wagner - Not For Sale

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by Leon

The seller was banned from Blowout, the only other forum I post on, but I didn't see a smoking gun in what was going on. The barrel was a bit warm though. It is hard to believe a baseball card seller wants to sell super expensive cards but knows little about them....Caveat emptor.

The card is not for sale I apologize

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

I will get more pictures of the card. You guys are animals sheesh I am getting ganged up. I am just busy lol. What happened in Blowout was the same thing. I posted a Michael Jordan card collection and everyone was annoying me and asking for more pictures, also I was asking people to consign items and they banned me for that. Everything is legit I will post more photos and stuff later give me some time.

Damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by peter_spaeth

damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

right!!!!!!

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

I certianly agree with your subtle humor and slight towards the situation but I also believe you made the opposite point as well.

How many are 'potential'? Let's be honest. Almost for certian 0 of everyone.

I believe that most of the questions are not from interested buyers. They are simply people interested or people that have nothing better to do than to try to poke holes in the person's story.

I can understand how that is burdensome when you have such an interesting item and you have stuff to do. I have definitely tried to sell things and been bombarded with increased activity from sources I was certain would never pan out. Especially if the motivation to sell is low. You want people that are qualified, interested and capable only.

It is unfair to question the level of motivation of the seller.
My guess is that it's a new experience for the seller.

[ullmandds]

here you go gentlemen!

[ullmandds]

slightly better?

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

slightly better?

No. Looks to me like the same scan from earlier enlarged. If it's not high-res from the get go, it never will be just manipulating the first image.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

I certianly agree with your subtle humor and slight towards the situation but I also believe you made the opposite point as well.

How many are 'potential'? Let's be honest. Almost for certian 0 of everyone.

I believe that most of the questions are not from interested buyers. They are simply people interested or people that have nothing better to do than to try to poke holes in the person's story.

I can understand how that is burdensome when you have such an interesting item and you have stuff to do. I have definitely tried to sell things and been bombarded with increased activity from sources I was certain would never pan out. Especially if the motivation to sell is low. You want people that are qualified, interested and capable only.

It is unfair to question the level of motivation of the seller.
My guess is that it's a new experience for the seller.

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

I don't know what to make of you not getting it.

Surely you can see the argument in my statement, right?

Is it that you just don't believe there may be a less than overly ambitious Wagner owner on his Ps and Qs that wants every bit of attention he can get for his listing?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

I don't know what to make of you not getting it.

Surely you can see the argument in my statement, right?

Is it that you just don't believe there may be a less than overly ambitious Wagner owner on his Ps and Qs that wants every bit of attention he can get for his listing?

To my mind it's pretty hard to casually and indifferently list a Wagner and just get annoyed by questions because the questions are from tire kickers anyhow. But maybe. Then again he had the same attitude about a substantially less pricey Jordan collection. People were annoying him with questions.

[jchcollins]

This whole thread is most amusing to me. Are you kidding? No, I don't have the money to buy that card. If it were bought by a card company and chopped into a million pieces to make memorabilia cards out of, I wouldn't have enough money to buy even THAT card.

But my aproach was kind of like I post a lot here, and you are going to have to suffer my opinions and questions, lol...Sorry.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He chose to come here to advertise. I really don't get your point.

+1.

If this were a major auction house offering that card, it would have detailed high-res scans and a nice write-up. The description we got - at least at first - would probably not hold up to some of the '55 Bowman commons I sold on eBay last year.

[RedsFan1941]

welcome to the net54 tire kickers convention

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

welcome to the net54 tire kickers convention

Exactly. I don't believe the seller is interested in spending his time explaining tires to people that kick them.

[MichelaiTorres83]

Ok. Poll. How many people here have the money to buy the card?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MichelaiTorres83

Ok. Poll. How many people here have the money to buy the card?

No one that has the money would answer your poll. I don't, btw.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

+1.

If this were a major auction house offering that card, it would have detailed high-res scans and a nice write-up. The description we got - at least at first - would probably about match up to some of the '55 Bowman commons I sold on eBay last year.

The card is not for sale I apologize

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

True, but if you post that card in that manner in this forum, the response he got was not at all surprising.

[barrysloate]

This is a card that would do great in an auction, but selling it on BST might not be the right fit. But you never know.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

I would hope that if you were in the market for a Wagner you would have bought an Altered one for 420K or an actual PSA 2 for 600k.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by rats60

I would hope that if you were in the market for a Wagner you would have bought an Altered one for 420K or an actual PSA 2 for 600k.

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

It's back to being a PSA 2 now? I thought it was a 4.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

It's back to being a PSA 2 now? I thought it was a 4.

The card is not for sale I apologize

[Jewish-collector]

There's been a few legit T206 Wagners on this B/S/T for sale over the years.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

I am quite sure that there would be a wide range in what a psa 2 might sell for. A deal centered card that looked like a 4 or 5 but has a barely noticeable flaw might go for a mil or more. A beat up card that looked like it belonged in a 1 holder maybe 500 or 600k. A card that looks like it belongs in the 2 holder maybe 800 or 850. These are just made up estimates but I would expect the variance to be at least that if not much more.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

You are or were in sales, right? Did you just blow off people you didn't think were serious buyers or were you respectful to everyone?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You are or were in sales, right? Did you just blow off people you didn't think were serious buyers or were you respectful to everyone?

Respectful yes, but if someone making say 40k a year wants to go test drive a $500k Ferrari or Rolls Royce I don't think the response will be sure let me get the keys.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Respectful yes, but if someone making say 40k a year wants to go test drive a $500k Ferrari or Rolls Royce I don't think the response will be sure let me get the keys.

It's a little easier to post a picture or answer a question than to take someone out for a test drive though.