Let's see some postcards

Greenmonster · #1 02-08-2019, 06:27 PM

I've had this postcard of the Polo Grounds for a long time and I've been trying to convince myself that it pictures Mathewson is on the mound. The note on the back dates the game to Aug. 1913. The Giants played 14 games at the Polo Grounds in Aug. 1913 with Mathewson pitching in 7 of those games. What do you think?

Bicem · #2 02-08-2019, 06:34 PM

Chapman?

TCMA · #3 02-08-2019, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenmonster

I've had this postcard of the Polo Grounds for a long time and I've been trying to convince myself that it pictures Mathewson is on the mound. The note on the back dates the game to Aug. 1913. The Giants played 14 games at the Polo Grounds in Aug. 1913 with Mathewson pitching in 7 of those games. What do you think?

Tried magnifying? Great PC either way.

Kris19 · #4 02-08-2019, 06:47 PM

Love that RPPC, Jim. Dibs if you decide to sell it! Does the scoreboard offer any clues? I tried blowing the image up, but cannot make out any of the matchups and it does not appear any scores are posted. The pitcher's set position looks Mathewson-like, but without scoreboard clues, I doubt you'll ever be able to prove it. Good luck!

Greenmonster · #5 02-08-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris19

Love that RPPC, Jim. Dibs if you decide to sell it! Does the scoreboard offer any clues? I tried blowing the image up, but cannot make out any of the matchups and it does not appear any scores are posted. The pitcher's set position looks Mathewson-like, but without scoreboard clues, I doubt you'll ever be able to prove it. Good luck!

Hi Kris...I tried blowing up the scoreboard but couldn't make out the teams.

Jobu · #6 02-08-2019, 07:44 PM

Jim, that is a cool rppc! How good is your scanner?

Greenmonster · #7 02-09-2019, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jobu

Jim, that is a cool rppc! How good is your scanner?

Hi Bryan...no better than this:

Bicem · #8 02-09-2019, 12:33 AM

There's a wealth of information there. I bet with a loupe we can determine the exact timing of the shot.

edjs · #9 02-09-2019, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenmonster

Hi Bryan...no better than this:

Are the numbers on the left of the scoreboard the lineup? If so, check the numbers vs. the known numbers assigned to the players, then you will know who the pitcher is. Probably in the number 9 spot.

trdcrdkid · #10 02-13-2019, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenmonster

Hi Bryan...no better than this:

If that�s Matty in the picture, and it really is from August 1913, then I�m pretty sure the picture was taken on Tuesday, August 26, when Matty shut out the Reds 1-0. In the two games on the right side of the scoreboard, �PITTS� is the visiting team in the top game, and �PHILA� is the home team in the bottom game. In August 1913, the Giants played at home from the 14th through the 27th, with Matty pitching three of those games, on the 16th, the 21st, and the 26th. But the game on the 16th was against Pittsburgh, so that can�t be this game, assuming that the scoreboard listed the present game first in the upper left, as was/is standard practice at ballparks. On August 21, Matty best the Cubs at home, but Pittsbugh played at Philadelphia, so the scoreboard doesn�t fit. On August 26, however, Pittsbugh played at Boston and St. Louis played at Philadelphia, which fits the scoreboard in the picture.

We can also tell that it�s the top of the first with two outs, and the pitcher appears to be looking at a runner on first. The Reds did not score in the top of the first in that August 26 game, but Retrosheet doesn�t have play by play info, just the box score. If there is a runner on first, then the (unseen) batter would be Armando Marsans.

rickalaska · #11 07-22-2019, 01:49 AM

This pitcher is right handed � that eliminates Rube Marquard

The scoreboard indicates it is at the start of the game, so this would be a �Starting Pitcher.� There appears to be no score, so this must be the �top� of the inning � Giant pitcher on the mound

Four teams came to town in the month of August 1913 � St. Louis Cardinals, Pittsburg Pirates, Chicago Cubs, and Cincinnati Reds.

Based on the size of the crowd (small), I doubt the opponents were the Pirates or the Cubs, who both had winning records � as did the Giants. That leaves the Cardinals and the Reds.

With the exception of Rube Marquard, all of the Giants pitchers that pitched in these two series were right handed.

The size of the crowd likely indicates the game is not on a weekend. The Cardinals played a double header on Thursday and one on Friday. The Reds played on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday � both teams had a losing record.

Jeff Tesreau (right handed), pitched the second game of a double header on Thursday 14 Aug 1913 � the pitcher looks like him, but a double header would have probably drawn a larger crowd.

The Giants starting pitchers against the Reds (3 game series) were Doc Crandal (right handed), Mathewson (right handed), and Art Fromme (right handed)

Fromme pitched against Mordecai Brown � probably would have been a big crowd

Mathewson would have probably had a big crowd

Doc Crandal pitched against Red Ames � Monday, 25 Aug 1913. My educated guess is that this is Doc Crandal on the mound. I certainly could be wrong, but I believe it looks like him also.

edjs · #12 09-17-2019, 09:45 AM

Finally a Dingman. This one was sent by Harl Maggert. Love it. Anyone know who John Edgar was? He had some way of knowing Maggert from the Springfield Ponies. Lifted the image from the auction, I�m feeling too lazy to scan it.

slidekellyslide · #13 10-19-2019, 05:34 PM

Just got this in the mail today. c1910 Nebraska Indians RPPC.

ksfarmboy · #14 10-19-2019, 06:22 PM

That�s a great pickup Dan! Was this a known version or totally new to you?

slidekellyslide · #15 10-19-2019, 06:44 PM

It was known to me. Dave E has one that was postmarked I believe they are in Belleville, Wisconsin in this photo.

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